Barbara,

I think I got a little carried away with the phone thing. Sorry.
You can see that the phone is an "issue" for me.

Maybe I am a weirdo about sleep. I do not have cats, dogs, or children because I care about my sleep that much.


Mari

We had a great time. I took Sabrina and Will and Ethan too.

My mom and sisters really enjoyed seeing my grandson's. And thanked
Sabrina for bringing Will and coming. It was so nice. Derrick had
a great time too.

Donna

Here it is.... 1:27 in the morning.... and I am wide awake....

I found a bottle of ambien full 30 day script worth......but won't take it as I don't know how it will affect my other meds.... though it is VERY tempting.


Abbie

in simple circumstances, i would tell you to pop 30mg of ambien and see how things go. but you have already complex circumstances. so i am 100% with you on not taking it.

What you could do, however, since today is monday (well, here it is already monday... i have not slept either lol btw, and i don't wanna take sleep meds during day time now but i will nap at least.

I would get your pdoc (in person or on phone, but HIM, not staff) and ask him about taking the Ambien. It *could* help:

-- remind him of your other meds (make list of meds & doses before call)
-- inquire as to safety with your other meds (should be ok but always best to check.
-- ask how much to take (taking too little won't help, so ask for a range to try. generally, range is 10-40mg depending on severity, but in excess of 40mg-ish it is discarded by the brain, so no sense using more.

Also REPORT SLEEP PROBLEMS in detail

i suggest writing the stuff down before calling:

---- latency: whether you have trouble FALLING asleep and why (e.g. racing thoughts and/or anxiety, agitation... other.)
---- persistence: whether you have trouble REMAINING asleep (Ambien alne will NOT help with this but he might give you something which can, to combine with the Ambien
---- total average sleep in a 24 hr period. #hours sleep in a single, typical sleep/nap.
---- THE NIGHTMARES. people have had odd experiences with ambien... low quality sleep, anterograde amnesia (can happen with any benzo but ambien (a simil-benzo) has some freaky stories)
---- SLEEP QUALITY - for instance, whether you remember your dreams easily - this is an index into how deeply you sleep, and whether you wake or semi/wake after each cycle whether or not you are aware of waking.

------------------ on dreams....

i had problems with Seroquel at 400mg dose - with sleep - specifically hypnapompic and hypngagogic hallucinations accompanying sleep paralysis. Seroquel could be producing similar problems even at a higher dose. I did not find it a particularly useful drug. I don't know if doses over 600 are ever given - at that dose it worked for me as far as sleep.

Hang in there, take heart. make notes, call pdoc or give notes to tdoc and ask her to mediate. TAKE CARE OF YOU!

((( hugs )))

~ waves ~

I'm still awake.... 7:44 am.....

my pdoc isn't in today....


abbie

Well.... Here it is...11:40 PM.... and I am still awake....

I can't get my mind to calm down....

Hi, Abbie,
How is it going?
M.

Dear Abbie,
Sending hugs and lots of sympathy.
If you can sleep during the daytime, please do that.

Some people can take Benedryl -- after talking to their pdoc --and get help for sleep. It doesn't work on me -- has the opposite effect that it is supposed to have.

Has Ambien worked for you before?
When you call the pdoc on Tuesday, you can ask about Ambien.

BUT here is my non-expert advice.
Ambien will not really even touch the situation that you are in. In my non-expert opinion, you need a few medications re-arranged.


When you call, have ready the information that Waves listed.
And make certain that you talk to the pdoc.
Tell the person who answers the phone that you feel that this is a serious situation that needs his immediate attention.


I hope that you get some help.

Mari

Abbie,

I hope that you have gotten enough sleep last night. Hugs to you.

barbara

Hi Abbie,

I hope your pdoc is reachable today - at one clinic or another.

When i can't sleep due to thoughts racing like that well... Ambien... hehehe... like sugar candy. it's a short-acting drug only to shorten sleep latency. it doesn't affect racing thoughts, or anxiety. The RxList monograph lists 10mg as the max daily dose also, so any pharmacist could not tell you to take more and anyway it is not the right drug here.

Like Mari, benadryl gives me a paradoxical reaction - yikes that's two of us. What about you? Have you taken it? If you have not tried it before, i wouldn't chance it right now.

If you cannot get hold of your pdoc today and still no sleep, do consider ER. Let someone take you rather than driving. You will need to bring ALL your scripts - bring the bottles.

Also make the list as far as your symptoms before you go, of the stuff i mentioned in the last post. Otherwise it will be too easy to get confused once there.

Hon, I really think you need a pdoc, now. If your clinic will not give you a number to reach your pdoc today, please consider ER.

One last shot...do you have any dosages of meds that you are allowed to take PRN???? if so post them... let's see what "the house" offers...



My sleep is all over the map right now, but at least it's ON the map somewhere, and enough of it!

Sending you peaceful thoughts.

~ waves ~