[hummer]

Dear Doc John.......

My Heart is smiling....thank you very much....for giving me this place.....

In the chronic pain forum....you have made a sticky that is posted by Wittsea , I think.....it is a post of abbreviation terms......I am lucky to post basic typing...don't know how to get it to this thread....but it is already a good one.............

Blessings to us all......
Hummer

[DocJohn]

Excellent, thanks for pointing that out to me... I'll include that as a link in the guidelines....

The other thing I forgot to mention is that the trigger icon isn't yet online. I will get that online shortly.

[DocJohn]

Not all flashing graphics are java. Most are animated GIFs, some might be Flash, etc.

If someone posts a topic, "Happy go lucky dance!! (flashing)" that would be enough to alert the members here if they are sensitive to flashing graphics not to view the thread.

Some of this is just being a little more aware of other people's needs. It doesn't always come naturally, but I think if we all make more of an effort, it helps everyone.

John

[DocJohn]

I've updated the guidelines with:

- Clarification on admin issues
- Clarification on copyright issues
- Clarification on signature links
- Clarification on what to expect if you violate a guideline
- Clarification on abbreviations

[swift]

Could the abbreviations list be moved somewhere more central? (I can think of a number of abbreviations that could be added, but aren't necessarily applicable to Chronic Pain).

[redjpwranglergirl]

Originally Posted by DocJohn

We will endeavor to have more than one person assigned to every forum, even if kimmydawn (kd) and I have to be the second person. This will ensure every report is taken seriously, even those against the mods themselves.

If you *ever* have any doubts about anything going on here, PM me or kd and you will get an answer. It may not be immediate (give us some time to look into an issue), but you will get an answer. Unlike other forums, we're here, we answer PMs, and we will be here in the future.

John

Thank you! It seems like you're trying to bend over backwards to be fair and to clarify any issues we might have a question about.

[kimmydawn]

Also, please know that Doc John and I have access to all forums as well and please don't ever hesitate to come to me if needed, or just if ya want to.

KD

[Thelma]

There is only one thilng that troubles me and that is when a moderator takes out words from a post and leaves the rest there. Then they have taken away the meaning and content of anothers thoughts and words.

They have not necessarily inserted their own words but have inserted their personal thoughts and mind into the contents. Try as you might there is no way for this not to be.

In a way they have upsurped the right to free speech just by the elimination of what they personally deem to be inappropriate.

We are all adults and as such know all of the words that are in current usage today.

Everyone saus ignoring does not work but it can if lyou want it to.

You have to ignore or lose your right to express yourself as you see fit.

Don't get me wrong I don't condone a lot of things said but I ignore them and look around to see what can be done on the one to one level either to change that persons mind on the usage of language or get a recognition of where and when to use it.

If all fails then yell for Doc

So please don't fall into the trap that fefell BT1.

I don't think anyone has benefitted from it going down. Whatever the cause.

[annie]

Originally Posted by swift

If the forum images have alt tags, or whatever the similar descriptor is in php (I only really know about html), then you should be able to tell your browser to automatically expand the words so that you can read them.

Another (which I've seen used elsewhere) is to use TRIGGER in the same way as OT (for off-topic) in the thread title.

Swift

most, but not all, images on vbulletin have alt tags. the alt tags come from the vbulletin software. the admin here can change them, but every little update wipes them out and they have to be done over.

the problem is not mostly alt tags. most of the problem is in the sizing of the images. if the image is sized when it is loaded then what i see is a little box the size that was written, regardless of the length of the alt tag. then i can mouse over the square and read the alt tag, if there is one, and the page loads correctly. for example, currently the icons below this message box have all been sized, and i can see what they would be by holding my mouse pointer over them. this is new, on OBT several of these icons were not sized.

if the trigger icon is sized, then the only way i will know it is there is to mouse over every single square representing an icon to me. if i am required to post a trigger icon on a post then the only way i will find it to check it is to run my mouse over every single square representing an icon until i find the trigger icon. if the trigger icon has alt tags.

if an icon is not sized and it has an alt tag, then i have a worse problem. the page does not load correctly because the alt tag on the unsized icon will spread as far as it needs to. this distorts the page badly and sometimes makes it impossible for me to read it. at best i have to do a great deal of scrolling.

this is a problem for many disabled computer users, especially the blind who use screen braillers or screen readers, or the learning disabled who use screen readers.

the icon sizing/alt tag problem has a very simple solution. size your icons and put in alt tags.

requiring me to use a trigger icon does not have a simple solution. i find the whole idea quite peculiar, since one of its reasons is supposed be to label threads which will be a trigger for my photosensitivity. but i can't see the trigger icons because of my photosensitivity. somehow i do not the idea of a trigger icon was followed to its logical conclusion.

[hannahbanana]

Thanks for your thoughts and all that information, annie. I must admit that most went over my computer-challenged head.

But hopefully others can consider it and possibly come up with a workable solution. And then talk to me like I was a 3 year old when they explain to me what to do.