[evie]

Originally Posted by mrsd

Did JL use the BT list from that software? Or do you think he has a separate
file? I don't remember seeing 50,000 members, either, I recall the high 30,000
the last time I looked, probably in spring.

Not much difference between 30'000 or 50'000 for this. Even if all people entered valid mail addresses, there will be some with full mailboxes, etc.

I don't know this bulletin system so I don't know where the addresses are stored; with our software, some memberdata is stored in a different place so I might be able to recover them to send them mail.

Originally Posted by mrsd

When the MAC OS came page up, soon after the mails were sent, I don't suppose
he could access the mail addresses either? How would that work? If he is restoring a database...wouldn't that preclude access? Does he have everyone's email in his own gmail acct? An address book with 30,000 names in it?

I don't know his setup so I don't know where he stored the addresses but assuming that he has a working backup in place, I'd guess those addresses are available on a backup and can be recovered. I doubt very much that he has them anywhere else, there are just too many of them.

I just checked to see whether I got that mail but I haven't. With the extended headers, I could probably say a bit more but this way I have no idea.

OTOH, he may just have sent out a msg to some who sent him a mail. Again, assuming that of the people who are actually active in a forum, many sent him a mail, he may have ended up with 1000+ mails all asking what is happening, some offering to help. Sending them all a reply manually would be too much so he may have just cherry picked a few.

Originally Posted by mrsd

I have Yahoo... so that is a common one.

Jeeeesh....how do the spammers do it! There is probably a short cut for THEM! or a robot...etc.

Spammers have many different ways depending on their goal; they don't just send spams, they also collect addresses by all out attacks on servers and many other ways, try to abuse other providers mail servers for sending their stuff and only then, last but by far not least, try and send their spam/scams/etc.
If you run mail servers, the Internet is a big war place with the battles taking place on every server. I spend quite a bit of my working time battling spammers and their spams.

Originally Posted by mrsd

Thanks Evie... I needed some education on this... I just type..I have no idea what is really happening most of the time!

No need to either If you throw a letter into the mailbox, you don't think of all the people/machines that have to handle it before it finally arrives at the destination and this should be much the same.

Btw. the page(s) being shown right now is/are just the standard OS X server page(s) if nothing is set up yet.

cheers
eve