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Lara 05-17-2007 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by redjpwranglergirl (Post 100662)
if you didn't kiss the mods or "another person's" @%*, your posts were censored, you were warned, or you were banned) you didn't have a snowball's chance in ^#@% there. And I'm not talking about JL....It was so obvious that you couldn't miss it. And if we're honest, those of us who posted at bt for several years knew that there were certain people on each forum who were bullet-proof.

Nothing personal towards you, redjpwranglergirl, but I think that's really unfair to all the other people who didn't get banned or didn't get their posts censored or never got warnings etc.. Does that make me someone who kisses someone's **** or is in some sort of inner circle with the mods? No, it does not. I've used that site for 10 years on and off since it was really and truly the wild wild web. None of it is all positive and all negative to me.

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Originally Posted by redjpwranglergirl (Post 100662)
Going back to bt at this or any point would be like putting your hand back on top of a red hot stove after you'd already done the same thing yesterday and got burned."

Well, call me a fool then. I know you're not really calling "me" a fool, but see I've not been in the same situation as a lot of people obviously have been. I really don't care if you all do think I'm a fool, but that would be a real shame because I am not a fool. I still post there and as long as there are people looking for information in the TS forum there and as long as the Autism forum continues I will continue to do so, and as long as some of my friends continue to post there and as long as there are new people looking for information which they might not get otherwise, I will continue to do so.

It's that important to me to continue to keep up with current scientific information in my areas of interest and it's that important to me to try to make sure that if someone new comes along they're not inundated with misinformation and go off totally lost in a crisis situation, particularly in the Tourette's forum although it's basically died now over there.

Also as long as there are people posting on the SOS forum there I will attempt (and this one is the hardest one believe me and the members here will know why it's the hardest one)... I will attempt to give them a hand to hold or even just for them to know that there is someone out there somewhere who understands a little about what they are feeling at that very moment. If I'm scrolling down the list and see someone needs someone or something, I'll answer if I can.

I absolutely and totally understand why some of my friends who are here do not post there. Absolutely. They're my friends. However, I have friends at BT as well. I'm not going to walk away totally from the friends I've made there who didn't come over here.

I just plod along doing my best. Here and there and other places. As long as my brain is working and my fingers can still type and I have some time in the day that's what I'll continue to do. I take breaks from everywhere from time to time and I attempt to stay out of situations that are none of my business and I also try to focus on why I am here and why I am there and just do what I do. I really dislike all this "us" and "them" stuff. It sure makes me feel a little lost that's for sure.

Geez, now you've really made me wonder again. I hope my friends here understand why I do both 'cause I truly do understand why they do not. :(

Lara 05-17-2007 02:41 AM

Had to go put the vegies in the casserole so we can eat tonight. :)
I forgot something and didn't want to edit my previous post.

I don't live with my head in the sand you know. I too get angry about it all and I too actually get sad about it all. It hurts me to see bad things done to good people and people who I care about. I probably know as much or more about things that have gone on as the next person. It's just that I made a choice to continue to use that site and to continue to use this site. There was a mass exodus at one time a long while ago from over there and I lost contact with so many people who meant so much to me. I found them again here and it means the world to me. I often do wonder though if any of them gave me a fleeting thought at the time. :D

well, that's it I guess. I try not to post on these threads unless I have something I feel is important to say but I'll probably stay away from it all again now. Chill out.

Lara... Lost in Space - Part II. LOL

Chemar 05-17-2007 05:59 AM

I really think it is a good idea, as I mentioned at the start of this thread, for us ALL to be sensitive to one another here, and especially to the members who post at both sites.

Every time we get one of these threads, people get hurt or offended on one or other "side"
I understand these feelings and I am not trying to in anyway invalidate them.
Rather, I would just encourage us to move forward and stop looking back.

Our two communities will always have a connection, that is our history

It would be nice if we could have a present and a future of peaceful co-existence, especially for the sake of the members who do have dual participation


:grouphug:

Alffe 05-17-2007 06:02 AM

Lara the world is a better place because you are in it. No explanations necessary about the whys of what we do. I'm just grateful for your efforts and for your friendship. :hug:

jena1225 05-17-2007 09:14 AM

The really odd thing is that there is so much BT bashing from this site, yet when you go over there, you just don't see it.

I have been there quite awhile, and can tell you I have never noticed any of the things you refer to, That does not mean it did not happen, it just means I never felt the need to get involved in the drama, even though I did not even know there was any to be had! Those who chose to are the only ones who got hurt. They say when you know too much....

I just post by asking for support and offering support, that is it.

Lastly, for those of you who refuse to ever post there again b/c of the "mods" are not hurting the people who run it, you are hurting the people looking for support, by really taking it out on them. It's like biting off your nose to spite your face :rolleyes:

Most people are good, with a few bad seads, but you have them here too, Try not to fool yourself into thinking they are not ;)

I think you guys here at BT2 should think twice when not replying to BT'ers when we visit here, and start treating everyone as if they are real people looking for real support

Chemar 05-17-2007 09:44 AM

jena

the history was last year and there was a lot of stuff said by people on both boards then. So it is important to get that into perspective.

Many people did get very hurt and many of the feelings are justified. Just because some were not aware of things that were happening, certainly does not give cause to invalidate what DID happen, jena.


BUT


We have members from both communities here and we have as much care and support for those who consider BT home and just visit here as we do for our own. Both boards have valued members who give and need support. To suggest that members here dont support those visiting from BT is just not accurate...the situation is quite the opposite as a visit around the forums shows

I really am politely requesting that this thread not deteriorate into attacks on members from either side. Discussion is ok....but comments that point fingers and build on rumour and innuendo are not helpful to anyone.

BT is back up, so this thread really has run its course now.

We do believe in open discussion here at NeuroTalk, but this discussion, which was intended to help BT members when their boards were down, is no longer focussing on being helpful and supportive, and is bringing out past hurts and rubbing salt in old wounds.

PLEASE would everyone think and edit before they post words that could hurt an innocent member just by the way they are lashed out.

I appreciate everyone's cooperation.

thanks
Cheri

kimmydawn 05-17-2007 10:04 AM

I just want to back up what Chemar has said in regards to respecting the choices, decisions, and practices of all here...even though they're different in comparison to our own.

Some were hurt, some were upset, some felt panic even. Those are feelings that belong to some even though we might not share them. It doens't mean that they don't exist for several to many.

I agree that discussion is GOOD because we do have many members that frequent both sites. BUT, because we do, we need to be supportive to that in our responses as well as the upset that is still there for many.

One way to help minimize hurt is to use "I statements", not "you" as they feel accusitory and can make others feel defensive. Please don't tell another that their decision, or feelings, are wrong or not justified. Please don't tell another that their choices and perceptions are wrong.

Overall, please remember that there are members here that frequent both sites and try to check your posting for something that might feel attacking to anyone. Talk about your concerns, talk about your fears, talk about your likes or dislikes, talk about your experiences, but please refrain from pointing out another's as wrong or inappropriate because those same things differ from your own.

We're all just doing our best to manage our individual self-care in many ways. We all have that in common. It's a good "base" ground to stand on, yes? :)

KD

jena1225 05-17-2007 10:17 AM

I do agree with that decision, and I also feel I was entitled to respond, which I have done, I believe, in a respectful manner and without using anyone's name, or pointing a direct finger. But really, I have no hard feelings here at all! :)

In regards to this, we can agree to disagree :)

Curious 05-17-2007 10:17 AM

:D when you join NeuroTalk...you are an NT'er too.

kinda sad that anyone would join here and not feel that they are part of our community. i'm sorry you feel that way jena and that you feel you are just visiting. i just figured you were a member of both. heck..most people who post on forums are members of many.

:eek: i even post on another forum. :D

i say Attachment 1303 to anyone who wants to post and be part of our ever growing community.

jena1225 05-17-2007 10:29 AM

:confused: Where did you get that idea? Am I not part of this forum b/c I chose to voice my opinion? Somehow, that doesn't quite make sense. I post here often, although I seem to be a thread-killer, I am not the type to have to one place or another, I can do both. But because I choose to make a very clear observation, and respond to a post, has nothing to do with anything. So, I am quite confused by your statement :confused:


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