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Originally Posted by Granola Liberal (Post 3141)

Um....I was of the opinion that Hasty Pastry was a bakery in Boston. Does anyone have solid evidence that it was a "hacker's den", or is this just another wild rumor being repeated as fact?

DocJohn: thank you again for all you have done. :)

Ditto on both counts Granola Liberal. :)

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Originally Posted by Granola Liberal (Post 3141)

I thought it was in Cambridge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L0pht#Founders

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History

The L0pht was founded in 1992 as a location for its members to store their computer hardware and work on various projects. In time, the L0pht members quit their day jobs to form a business venture, named L0pht Heavy Industries. This hacker think tank released several security advisories and produced some widely-used software tools, like L0phtCrack (a password cracker for Windows NT).

In 1998, representatives from the L0pht famously testified before the Congress of the United States that they could shut down the entire Internet in 30 minutes.

In January 2000, L0pht Heavy Industries merged with the startup @stake, completing the L0pht's slow transition from an underground organization of dubious legality into a licit "whitehat" computer security company.

Symantec announced its acquisition of @stake on September 16, 2004, and completed the transaction on October 9 of that year.

Many computer geeks started out with an interest in hacking and migrated to security, because they realized how vulnerable systems are.

People are much more at risk from the information they freely post about their private lives online than any risk from hackers. There is a delicate balance between being open and revealing too much information. BT1 continually warned members that the forums were available to the public and web archives. It's everyones personal responsibility to follow that advice.

If you build a supportive, caring community that can vocalize and resolve their difficulties in a civil manner, you will have a healthy balance of people that will have little interest in trolling. When people gang up on others, that is when they are at risk from others wanting to know more about them from what you freely put out there in the past.

The best way to surf is to be considerate, civil and supportive. A community where your voice is as meaningful as the next persons is invaluable to keeping peace and creating an environment where everyone is equal. When cliques of abusive members are tolerated and encouraged, it leads to dissention. The best deterent is for members to self police themselves and use the ignore feature when available.

When I surf I try to avoid situations where I'll paint a bullseye on my forehead ;) It's something I learned through the years online, but was clueless as a newbie.

That's the best advice I can give, other than reserving really private information for PM's and email contacts with those that you trust, while keeping in mind that online communities are a haven for gossip and what you tell another privately will most likely make it to someone elses ears.

I support others that have changed their usernames to protect their identity when they are looking for a new beginning from past revelations they may have made from poor judgement. We are all guilty of doing that, and that's why it's important to allow people to edit their posts with no time limitation to remove personal information when needed.

Even if you were an SOB on the old forum, you are welcome to change your identity, hopefully along with your attitude if that's what you want. I've never met a perfect human being, so my standards are not very high. The only time I ever get upset online is when I see others mistreated and abused. I have zero tolerance for that.

If someone offends you and you fear they will edit their post, QUOTE their post in your reply and it will be there forever.

It's also wise to use a seperate username and email address for every online forum you go to, unless your identity is public information from business activities and you choose to divulge that. I am dorry here and nowhere else. People that I've cared to contact privately, know my identity, and I theirs.

I have no fear of DocJohn having my IP and email address. It's what I post that is far more damaging to my personal life, if I choose to make enemies online.

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Originally Posted by Granola Liberal (Post 3141)

Um....I was of the opinion that Hasty Pastry was a bakery in Boston. Does anyone have solid evidence that it was a "hacker's den", or is this just another wild rumor being repeated as fact?

Here are some links. Not sure how much info can be gleaned though. The last link is JL’s web page…

http://www.hastypastry.net/
http://zero.hastypastry.net/
http://zero.hastypastry.net/brain
http://zero.hastypastry.net/dojo/sho...1620#post21620
http://zero.hastypastry.net/pathfinder/

dorry,

Thanks for the good advice.

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Originally Posted by anonymous (Post 3161)

Not much is gleaned from those links and I could not find any proof of the previously mentioned rumor.

hannahbanana

Forgive me then for misunderstanding your post. To me that's how it read.

BT1 is at the IP address, 199.201.145.187.

A whois lookup on that IP address will show that it is owned by "L0pht Heavy Industries," which was a hacker group (see the above Wikipedia link):

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois....99.201.145.187

I'm not sure what that means, since the group is supposed to be defunct.

John

Keyword being WAS.

Even if they still are a hacker group...the majority of people don't know what a hacker is so they should check this out.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker

So a "hackers den" isn't a "bad" thing.

This is information that John himself put out on Braintalk even before he left MGH.

Nothing here ils new information he told everyone himself.