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Old 07-07-2007, 06:41 AM #1
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Thank you, Chemar, yes, that is exactly what I propose! Doesn't even need a message really, just "post deleted" would do, it's the public recording of the fact that a post was made, in context, that I feel is important.

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the problem is that we DONT delete members posts...only spammers and trolls....actually even trolls posts get archived for reference....so only SPAM is made to go poof.

when we remove a member post in it's entirety, which, I have to emphasize again is a rarity and only done when there is no co-operation or no way to just edit it, then we MOVE it to the deleted archives on admin forum

there is no field for us to leave a message when doing that, because it isnt deleted, it is moved.........and we cant exactly leave a redirect to admin archives LOL

however, as promised, we have started a discussion on this to see whether we can work around it to still be able to leave a message stating the action taken, and I am hopeful it can be done.It will be an extra step for mods to have to do...but may work.

see...........we do try to always be accountable for our actions
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ps I too misunderstood when i first read your post and thought you were referring to us removing whole threads, which i know for a fact is hardly ever done. It was only when I had my second cuppa tea and had a less fuzzy morning brain LOL that I understood that you were referring to individual posts in a thread.

I hope the explanation re deleted vs moved posts explains why no message currently occurs when a post is removed, and that we will attempt to implement a way to leave a message in future
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:39 AM #3
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Cheri's added some good info. Posts aren't deleted forever. There's a record somewhere.

Artist,

See, our practice is to move the post that's against guidelines out of sight. At the same time, we care much for our members' privacy here and say as little as possible publicly. We can alter that practice with the post remaining in tact out of sight BUT leave a brief account of action done and why.

Is that what you're asking for? If so, I think it a good idea.

To respect the member that's being edited, there won't be detail. I certainly see no reason not to leave a note though saying, "mod/admin edit" or "edit at the request of poster" to allow for a more complete understanding of the thread dynamics.

I see what you're saying when just one post is gone in a thread but the thread has changed directions...it's confusing and can be misleading. This way people would at least know there's something they missed, right?

(((((( Artist )))))) Thank you for the suggestion. I really think you're spot on with this, and sometimes we (inside the box) can't see these things that could be very helpful.

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It does explain it, thank you, Chemar.

I hope very much that some method can be devised to record within the thread the postings removed (or transferred).

I tried to be clear, but realized that I myself often use the words "posts" and "threads" interchangeably, lord knows why...so I was painstakingly careful about my wording...once you understand it, I think my post is very clear (once you understand it, lol)....

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Thank you KD, I was replying to Chemar while you posted.

Yes, indeed, that is what I mean. I don't care two figs what you put in the blank "placeholder" - or whatever you can come up with, I'm sure your collective judgement will be appropriate.

BTW, I just wish to stress that of course I do not mean we should apply this to obviously unwanted posts, like spam, just the bona fide posts that, for whatever reason and yes, most often at the poster's own request, are transferred.

This would certainly restore my faith in NT, and I truly believe will help reader's understanding of the thread dynamics.

Thanks all for bearing with me,
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As far as I'm concerned, it's done then. I should add that I'm not final say, but I really don't see an issue with it at all.

I agree with you. There are some very complicated threads that go on, and don't always see every aspect/angle of the conversation flow, so a quick "flag" could be really helpful.

Yep, I know you aren't referring to spam or anything. I'll add another thing. I doubt we'll do it when it's the first post in a thread as well...with no responses yet.

Deal?

I'm in!

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Deal!

Can't find a handshake icon, so you'll just have to be hugged
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hugs work for me

i'll post the final word on the new proposed mod/admin action soon! I want you to know exactly what to expect, but more importantly what you can count on to happen.

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