[Username]

If it comes to be that JL walked with the money, I will be in line with everyone else holding a stone to throw at him.


Added: Like I said though, that's yet to be proven.

[DocJohn]

Over 2 months now. The message has been down now for more than a few days. No update, no word to the thousands of people who depended upon the community. Some on a daily basis.

At this point, I guess we should stop holding our breaths waiting for its return and just get on with life and building this community.

It's sad, but I also think we shouldn't read too much into a person's motives or behaviors without them being here to defend themselves. Instead let's focus on the positive and what can be built here.

John

[JoJo6]

You are right DocJohn. I see the beginnings of something very good for all that care to be a part of. thank you for reminding us of our goal as to helping others, share their happy moments, share their sadness, but encouraging all the time, to all!! I'm going to work on a list of people we left behind and see if I can help at least some find their way here.

Can't thank you enough, DocJohn. thanks to all the good people that have helped in ever way thats needed. take care, Jo

[The Crystal Cave]

Originally Posted by Username

If it comes to be that JL walked with the money, I will be in line with everyone else holding a stone to throw at him.

Added: Like I said though, that's yet to be proven.

The server saga and dollar stuff is here:
http://zero.hastypastry.net/forums/

Truly, I don’t know a single person who could "walk" for very long on $3,000. Lordy, I’d put it in a piggy bank and give it to him in a heartbeat. I'm not a happy camper about being let down and disrespected, but O think questioning the man's integrity is over the top.

Dr. Grohol, that was a pretty crummy thing to do, putting up a rational, empathic message just before I hit reply to post my diatribe. You popped the puff right out of it. I just hate it when that happens.

Onward.

TCC

[anonymous_no_more]

Originally Posted by DocJohn

Over 2 months now. The message has been down now for more than a few days. No update, no word to the thousands of people who depended upon the community. Some on a daily basis.

At this point, I guess we should stop holding our breaths waiting for its return and just get on with life and building this community.

It's sad, but I also think we shouldn't read too much into a person's motives or behaviors without them being here to defend themselves. Instead let's focus on the positive and what can be built here.

John

It is ironic that JL has now entered the domain of a person who takes funds and disappears, and is now the center of another "inquiry"...terribly, deeply ironic.

And the swarm of innuendo continues...some things never change.

Why not enjoy the day...utilize this new forum...and when/if BT reappears, let this JLester person account for everything. If it never comes back...hold on to the memories of those benefits that one once derived from it having been there. No one can make someone morally accountable.

Have we ever considered that something in this person's life may be keeping him from completing the task? Or, perhaps, that he has lost the desire? Or, that he HAD the desire to get BT back up, but came here, saw the silliness, and lost that desire? I could go on an on, and on with variations on a theme.

We can all agree that this isn't the desired state; we could go on and on as to the "why's of BT not being available, who has been let down, and the lack of communication" forever and ever. What does it solve, other than digging a deep whole that JLester may never be able to fully explain, resolve, or dig out of...time to move on.

I like Jo's idea of finding all the lost souls, and directing them here.

One problem solved.

[newbie]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14783327/

IF this is true. I hope John spends time in protecting peoples bank accounts and Identity rather than spending time worring about the selfishness posted here.

[stevem53]

Im afraid now that its blatently obvious that there is more to this that what meets the eye..Strange..real strange

[Thelma]

My thoughts are that this latest time out at Braintalk has to do with the trouble at Linden labs. He must be working to save his two sites there. They are connected to Braintalk in many ways. Perhaps he needs to keep Braintalk down until that is cleared up.

You know it could be a reason why he has kept the site down for so long.

The crash came in between the time they had a problem that must have alerted them and when they discovered what it was.

Maybe I got it............... maybe

[anonymous_no_more]

Originally Posted by Granola Liberal

The old forum (pre-hasty pastry) was CONSTANTLY going offline for weeks at a time. Sometimes, John would post a note apologizing for the inconvenience, sometimes not. There was a span where he didn't post on braintalk at all for nearly a year.

If, as Anonymous_no_More suggested, JL "saw all this silliness and lost the desire", he still owes his members the courtesy of an explanation. Concern over the well-being of members who are wholly dependent on a forum for their outside contact is hardly silliness!

A little communication and honesty go a long way.

GL
The "silliness" is not aimed at those that expressed their feelings of loss of support, rather, the offering of all kinds of "reasons/innuendo" for the "whys" of JL's inability to communicate.

Again, as I stated before, no one can make anyone else "do the right thing" or "want to do the right thing". That we are not experiencing the "desired state" is a given.

Rather than lament what we cannot control, take action on those things that we can...

Getting support here, is a great start. Waiting for JL to either "dig out" and communicate (as he has clearly, deeply hurt so many) is perhaps not worth the emotional effort. But, that is just my own POV...and usually not one agreed with or upon...

[annie]

imagine how we are going to feel if it turns out that the reason he is not communicating is because he is in the hospital learning firsthand what we already know about having brain problems.

imagine how we are going to feel if the problem is that someone close to him is very ill and he is spending all his time taking care of them.

imagine how we are going to feel if we discover that the reason he has abandoned us is that something bad has happened to him.

maybe we should stop criticizing and blaming him and start praying for him.

maybe we should think about his needs for a change instead of demanding that he should take care of ours.