Wow time travel!!!

You know string theory is kinda on the verge of proving that time travel could or could not be done.

I was reading some stuff on singularities, gravity, and blackholes that mentioned things about uncovering time travel through these experiments. The article also mentioned the CERN lab as going to be on the cutting edge of proving or disproving these theories.

Wouldnt time travel be great!!

I would go back and leave myself notes at certain dates to tell myself to do, or not do certain things.

Like I would put a note on the windshield of my truck on march 31st 2000 telling me not to go to the doctor, and if I do go dont let them do the angio that disabled me LOL.

The only bad part is I would be tempted to leave notes with that weeks winning lotto numbers too LOL.

For those that are lost to all this geek talk you can go to the CERN website and learn in laymans terms about all this stuff we are talking about.

http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/en/...nsions-en.html

Sorry my little blue Moi friend...all those geekie geeks are off into the world of wonders.

Mine is in Hawaii and I don't know...the last time ...something about cloning something and I get a little lost on what his research is on...so it is nod and smile!

I love time travel concepts they are so deep. Yeah Allen I saw that on the show about string theory, it was a strong argument in my eyes it made a lot more sense then any other explanation I have heard.

ok next geek idea am curious Moi do you watch shows on how the universe was formed etc.... the physicist Michio Kaku made some interesting comments on a show about the universe, about how most universes have two suns. also he commented on how the last planets are in the wrong place they belong down by us, which someone gave a so so idea how they got there.

I wrote a question to Science Channel and him about, what if we did have two suns and thats what the Kipper belt is made out of a burned out sun, that might of imploded as a neutron star. and thus that would help explain the smaller planets so far from the sun, and would explain what the belt is made of. did you know there are also a few minor planets out that way? I never knew anything about Minor planets, I had never heard of them before this one show, Ceres, Pluto, Makemake, Eris, Mimas and Pallas. yes Pluto has been reclassified as a minor planet ...Aka Small Solar Systems bodies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_solar_system_bodies

no answer yet from him or SC

hey Frank, I saw parts of that show. Was that the one on History Channel about the history of the universe?


Yeah, I did both read and saw information about the twin suns and I think in the movie 2010, they discussed that concept and claimed that Jupitar might have been the "other"
sun that is thawing out (which makes no sense cause Jupitar is a planet...but then again, it's been a long time since I've seen the movie so don't quote me on that)

and there was this big argument about the minor planets and how people were petitioning to keep Pluto as the original 9...LOL (OK, getting off track here)



I like your idea about the Kiuper belt:

It jolted some ideas:

OK, you know Gamma Ray are the only true Rays (where Alpha and Beta are just particles)

Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson discovered and identified the background radiation of the universe.

The Sun is the main gravitational pull in our solar system yet according to that show (History of the universe) the whole universe is spiraling out as a whole and on its own, but let's just take the on its own stuff for now)

The kiuper Belt contains some major Plutinos and is on the outer Edge.

If it was the remnants of a nertron star or Quark Nova it could leave strong Gamma Ray Bursts and if we can find those traces, your theory might be proven!! That would be pretty cool, eh?

And even if we think of it as gravitational pulls, that might work as well,

our planets especially Earth which contains life, are being "held" within the two Suns thus keeping our gravity in tact.

of course, this is just my personal opinion and probably wrong as heckit but it sure is good to find folks to talk about it! LOLOL

I am not too sure I agree about the sun, they have been discovering that all the major galaxies have massive black holes in the center and everything seems to rotate around those. and supposedly in 2012 two days b4 my birthday (we are celebrating my bday 3 days b4 my bday in case the Mayans are right) the sun will be in the center of universe, near this black hole, its a 26000 yr cycle or was it an 11000 yr cycle, either way the sun being there and the polar shift always happen at same time which leads me to think the massive black hole has something to do with the shifting polar north and south, I hope its a slow process or we are all in big big trouble

yes it was the same show because the one scientist said he got all this hate mail about taking Pluto off the planet list lol

yeah, that's true...

but wouldn't our own solar system have its own gravitational pull?

kinda like pointalism.

like a bunch of dots to represent the eye, those hold together. Then a bunch of points to represent the nose. those pull together

but the eye and the nose have their own combined force attracting to one another...LOL

man, this is exciting stuff....boy, learn things everyday...I am going to have to look that one up.

that's what I am talking about, I get to learn new things!!!!

hi Frank, I had remember that I read an article that debunks the massive black hole's gravitational pull on galaxies (unless they are within the radius) and did some search. While this one seems to be outdated and I've read both supporters and detractors of the theories you've posted(thank goodenss NT was down, I learned a lot of stuff today. LOLOL) For me, mathematically, this article makes more sense to me.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=150 (and yeah, it has "curious" in it's address name LOL)

As with every theory that is out there about our universe. A lot of them are just theories and I am open to all theories so I am not throwing away your view yet, actually. The more I read about it I do tend to agree with you and its supporters. However, I am still with the group that agrees that our solar system has its own relativity of gravitational pull within itself (I'll try to explain my view at the end of this post) It has been very interesting reading up on them and I can say that I am only more confused than ever...LOL (But did LEARN some stuff)

This is what is great about these discussions, we can all chip in on our ideas and then go look for things to support or unsupport the ideas.

btw, which Gilgamesh books have you read? The one that I really love is:

Gilgamesh: By John Gardner and John Maier.

John Gardner wrote the "Sunlight Dialogues" which you might find interesting.

He died in 1982 in a motorcycle accident. However, he did left his last work, a typescript of Gilgamesh which he painstakenly translated mainly from "Sin-leqi-unninni" (who's been credited of marrying the Sumerian and the Akkadian versions of Gilgamesh together) to be published and John Maier did a good job helping to see it to print.

(don't quote me on this but I think the Akkadians conquered the Sumerians and not sure why that is of any significance except for another fun trivia. LOL)

anyways, they printed out all the texts that were found up to that point and included the original texts (translated, of course) in the book. All cuneiforms, complete, incomplete or what not were all included.

To me, they did a great job explaining the text (which was written in prose) and it is a great read. Small paper back.

It talks about that Noah-like dude, Utnapishtim, in more depth than some of the other versions I've read. And it explains the conflict of Ishtar a bit more. And then it goes into more depth about Enkidu.

http://www.amazon.com/Gilgamesh-John...9561752&sr=8-1

I still haven't found my book about the flood being in all major religions but I am almost certain that I did read that Gilgamesh (in Cuneiform and considered by many to be the first novel) was where the very first flood was mentioned (in writing) and then it trickled down onto other religions (I am NOT turning this into a religious talk, folks, just what I've read. )

anyways, just thought you might be interested.

If you have any books that you really love that you think I might be interested, throw the titles my way.

I'd love to read more on whatever ideas...it's really exciting to learn!

I do have to tell you, after all the readings I've done today on Black holes, it's made this already huge black hole of mine bigger...think I have enough gravity to pull my sanity in? LOLOLOL

Oh, BTW, I did read something very interesting today which I never knew...black holes used to be called :Frozen Stars

it wasn't until John Wheeler called his theory "black holes" that black holes became popular...always cool to learn something new!



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btw, Frank

I do want to say that I am still with you on the super black hole being the main gravitational pull. But I still do believe that our solar system has it's own gravitational pull.

while there are many reasons, the main one would be: If the black hole is so strong, it would make not only the sun, but each planet and asteroids and comets and belts revolve around the black hole rather than the sun.

so IMHO I still think that our solar system as a whole, gravitates(revolves) around the black hole as one entitity (as you've mentioned. )

Let me see if I can attempt to illustrate this. LOL

If I use "S" for Sun and each planet's first letter for this equations, i.e. "E" for earth. (And I'll avoid the asteroid belts and others to avoid confusion on my part but I'll throw in Pluto for good measurement. LOL)

so S{m,v,e,m,j,s,u,n,p} (all the planets inclusive in the Sun)

and BH will equal black hole

so BH [S{m,v,e,m,j,s,u,n,p}]

anyways, this has been a great learning experience, thanks for bringing this up. I've had a lot of fun researching today.

Bonjour Who Moi!!!

Comment sa va aujourd-hui?

Now I'll put my question into english and I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO ANSWER.

In all honesty, how do you think life began on this planet?

Get crackin!!! lol

Melody

bro, I know what you mean...LOLOL

this is what I've found on string theory that propelled all these other theories:

*String Theory and Quantum Loops

At present, over 200 types of subatomic particles are thought to exist, although the evidence for some of these is sketchy at best.

Particles such as the electron, which were previously not thought to be made up of smaller components, are said to be elementary particles. However, some physicists believe that even these particles are made up of quantum loop-type units called superstrings. These are thought to be billions of times smaller even than the fundatmental particles and are believed by many physicists to form the real fabric of the Universe. If true, this would provide us with a theory that could explain all creation (but don't hold your breath)

(source: Infinity in your pocket)

and since we have found that all particles are bascially made up of "up quark" and "down quark" (in theory)
(back to I/O again, LOL)

it sure can make string theory sound interesting.

I'd like to go back in time and get that lottery number also...LOLOLOL

btw, thanks for the CERN website...I have it saved in my favorites.

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Taffy, is your son cloning grandkids??
What kind of research does he do?? Whooo...moi likes reserachers!!

i get it.

string theory + quantum loop = fruit loop necklace