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Bryanna 07-12-2013 01:41 PM

Gretchen,

I know you are grateful and I appreciate your kind words ;) I am trying so hard to help you :)

Again, your symptoms could be normal due to post op inflammation in the jawbone and sinus... or it could be bacteria related. There is no way I can tell over the internet :<

If it is throbbing when you get up in the morning and then eases up during the day you may find some relief if you sleep propped up as this puts less pressure on that area of your sinuses. You know once the inflammation sets in.. and it does after an extraction... anything you do (consciously or unconsciously) to irritate it will make it hurt. So the first 2 weeks or so after an extraction is truly a time of intense healing and we often become impatient and just want to get on with life already. Especially when the problem had been a lingering one :/ I'm not saying this is what you have done but it is so easy to do and not realize it!

It's funny (well stupid funny) but years ago as a set post op protocol we use to instruct patients who had any upper tooth removed to ..... <<not bend over as to put your head down to tie your shoe, not blow the nose, not chew on that side, not do any strenuous activity that resulted in labored breathing through the mouth, prop up the head for sleeping>>.... along with the other usual not to's for a 2 week period. Perhaps we should get back to those instructions!

Try using a couple of pillows to sleep on tonight and see if that helps. Also, you could use a warm, moist wash cloth on that outside area of your face a few times a day to see if that ease the inflammation a bit.

Keep us posted... hopefully it is healing okay and you will feel better in a day or two.

Bryanna

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Originally Posted by gdmcor (Post 999349)
Bryanna, I have some throbbing from the area, my left ear feels full and hurts at times, and there is the same spot on the jaw that is sore. This morning the pain was pretty bad, but it has decreased some for now. There is post nasal drip, but that's a norm for me anyway!

I will go to more soft foods and avoid chewing on that tooth.

Thank you for the examples of questions to ask the OS on Monday. Also thank you for your prompt response!

I'll be so glad/grateful when I can get off ibuprofen and painkillers!

Gretchen :Thank you:


gdmcor 07-12-2013 06:46 PM

I just saw your response, Bryanna, and believe me, you are a big help! :)

What you said about bending over, funny, but that does increase the pressure in my sinus area.

I will use some heat and sleep propped up tonight. I pray that it is just inflammation and not a dry socket, but if it is, that too shall pass.

You're right, I do want to get on with my life already, but sometimes "life" has other ideas. :mad:

I will let you know what the OS says on Monday, and how the chipped crown app. goes on Wednesday with the dentist.

Patience was never one of my strong points, but it's so needed now.
Thanks! Gretchen :hug:

Bryanna 07-12-2013 07:40 PM

Gretchen,

I think you have been very tolerant and have taken one step at a time. But anyone would become "done" by this point..... me included!

Life will go on.... and you will be okay.

Have a nice weekend.... let me know if you need me.. or ginnie ;))

Bryanna


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Originally Posted by gdmcor (Post 999469)
I just saw your response, Bryanna, and believe me, you are a big help! :)

What you said about bending over, funny, but that does increase the pressure in my sinus area.

I will use some heat and sleep propped up tonight. I pray that it is just inflammation and not a dry socket, but if it is, that too shall pass.

You're right, I do want to get on with my life already, but sometimes "life" has other ideas. :mad:

I will let you know what the OS says on Monday, and how the chipped crown app. goes on Wednesday with the dentist.

Patience was never one of my strong points, but it's so needed now.
Thanks! Gretchen :hug:


gdmcor 07-15-2013 09:03 AM

Hi Bryanna and ginnie, :)

I saw my OS this morning for the post op check up on #14. I told him of the pain I'd been having, which has lessened in the last day, thankfully. He checked the site, removed the last stitch, and told me it looked good, though still a little puffy. There was a blood clot though, no dry socket.

He said the pain sounded normal, it was an extraction after all - he said. :rolleyes:

I also told him of my jaw pain and the root canal in tooth #17 (I believe it is). He asked how long I'd had the root canal and I believe it's been about 4 years. Anyway, he was in a hurry, otherwise I would have had him x-ray the tooth. I told him I could be back for another one if that's bad.

I do have the appointment on Wednesday to get the chipped crown looked at, and I will have them take an x-ray.

I had an awful MS experience Saturday night at a restaurant. I got up to walk to our table and my left leg/knee began to feel weak, I had some weird pain and just collapsed. Luckily I had my husband to grab onto as I fell, so no injuries.

We went to the ER, I was worried about a stroke, I had never fallen before with MS. I got a CAT scan and no bleeding, so I was relieved. Blood work and an EKG were normal as well. So it was attributed to the MS.

My MS is activated when my immune system goes into overdrive (infection or stress), so this shows you just what this tooth has been putting me through. For 3weeks, ever since the dentist did the prep on it for the crown, I've been feeling ill and under power.

A little more work to do, but I'm getting there....Gretchen

Bryanna 07-15-2013 05:14 PM

Hi Gretchen,


Well I am glad that the #14 site is feeling better and it's healing okay ;))

However, I am so sorry you had an awful experience this weekend at the restaurant!! Very glad you are okay but jeez what an upsetting situation!! I deal with so many emergency situations at my work yet when one occurs with myself or my family..... it drains me so badly!! I hope you are feeling much better by now ~'.'~

I agree that it would be wise to have #17 checked out radiographically asap. You cannot risk a chronic infection or the stress over the possibility of one!

The other day on the Rachel Ray show she had Montel Williams on as her guest. As you may know he has MS. He has altered his life so drastically and had some interesting inspirations to share. I just thought if you were interested you could google him and read a bit about how he has transformed his life. He is exceptionally motivating!

Okay so no more incidents.... ok :)

Let us know how wednesday goes. And don't stress over that appointment. Your dentist will feel obligated to do right by you.~;>

Bryanna




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Originally Posted by gdmcor (Post 1000089)
Hi Bryanna and ginnie, :)

I saw my OS this morning for the post op check up on #14. I told him of the pain I'd been having, which has lessened in the last day, thankfully. He checked the site, removed the last stitch, and told me it looked good, though still a little puffy. There was a blood clot though, no dry socket.

He said the pain sounded normal, it was an extraction after all - he said. :rolleyes:

I also told him of my jaw pain and the root canal in tooth #17 (I believe it is). He asked how long I'd had the root canal and I believe it's been about 4 years. Anyway, he was in a hurry, otherwise I would have had him x-ray the tooth. I told him I could be back for another one if that's bad.

I do have the appointment on Wednesday to get the chipped crown looked at, and I will have them take an x-ray.

I had an awful MS experience Saturday night at a restaurant. I got up to walk to our table and my left leg/knee began to feel weak, I had some weird pain and just collapsed. Luckily I had my husband to grab onto as I fell, so no injuries.

We went to the ER, I was worried about a stroke, I had never fallen before with MS. I got a CAT scan and no bleeding, so I was relieved. Blood work and an EKG were normal as well. So it was attributed to the MS.

My MS is activated when my immune system goes into overdrive (infection or stress), so this shows you just what this tooth has been putting me through. For 3weeks, ever since the dentist did the prep on it for the crown, I've been feeling ill and under power.

A little more work to do, but I'm getting there....Gretchen


gdmcor 07-15-2013 06:50 PM

Bryanna, I am feeling better, thanks! It was a relief to know I didn't have a stroke!

Montel is my MS super hero! His attitude and "never give up" persona are so contagious and inspirational. I just love him!
I'm going to try his green smoothie also.:) He's in better shape and eats healthier than most "healthy" people!

I'll let you know how Wednesday goes....Gretchen

gdmcor 07-17-2013 04:16 PM

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Hi Bryanna, I'm posting a pic from tooth 18, it has a root canal. The dentist said it looked okay, but my bite was really off, which can cause jaw pain. He adjusted it and it seems a lot better. I will post more, I just wanted to see if you got this file.

Thanks, Gretchen

Bryanna 07-17-2013 04:50 PM

Hi Grethcen,

Thanks for posting the xray. You already know my opinion about it :/

Is there something embedded in the bone behind this tooth that is appearing as a very white spot on the xray? Like a piece of mercury or piece of an instrument?? It could be an artifact on the xray. Just thought I'd ask.

Bryanna



Quote:

Originally Posted by gdmcor (Post 1000780)
Hi Bryanna, I'm posting a pic from tooth 18, it has a root canal. The dentist said it looked okay, but my bite was really off, which can cause jaw pain. He adjusted it and it seems a lot better. I will post more, I just wanted to see if you got this file.

Thanks, Gretchen


gdmcor 07-17-2013 05:38 PM

Bryanna, I was just wondering if you saw an active infection, if not, the extraction of it will have to wait until I get my MS under control.

I don't know anything about the white spot on the other tooth. :confused: I've had several dentists in the past, so I don't even know who did the crown!

I'm hoping the dentist's adjustments will get rid of my left jaw and ear pain; my bite apparently was really off, and I was only landing on the left side.

Anyway, I had another incident of spasms, weakness and pain in my left leg and arm today. So, it's time to go to the doctor and see what's up. Everything's on the left side. :eek:

I'll have to get another temp crown made for the other tooth that was chipped, but I didn't have it done today, with site #14 still sensitive. The dentist seems to think I need a stronger material made for the next one.

Oh, and they credited the amount I paid on the crown for tooth 14.

Thanks for everything again! Gretchen

Bryanna 07-18-2013 09:30 AM

Hi Gretchen,

Let me clarify the white spot I was talking about on the xray...

Looking at the xray, to the right of the root canaled tooth down towards the roots "embedded in the bone" there is a bright shiny white object. It appears to have a black outline around it which may indicate bacteria. Any chance you have an xray that was taken further back to view that area?? Also, the rc tooth has the root structure of a wisdom tooth.... is it your wisdom tooth?

Gretchen, the rc tooth does not appear to be abscessed at this time. However it is not healthy in that #1 it is root canaled and therefore it is harboring necrotic bacteria which compromises the immune system #2 there is some change in the bone in what is called the furcation area. This area is located in the center of the root structure.... in between where the roots come together in the middle. This change indicates bacteria and inflammation.

I am thinking there is a correlation between your left jaw both upper and lower and your physical symptoms on your left side. Here is a link to the tooth and organ chart. This theory is very valid and has been in practice for many centuries in chinese medicine. The way you look at it is... you click on a tooth number that correlates with your own teeth and read what organs and body parts that tooth connects to. It is just as important to click on the adjacent teeth as they share the same bundle of nerves and body meridians.

http://toothbody.com/wp-content/uplo...v2.1_rehme.swf

Let me know what you think!
Bryanna



Quote:

Originally Posted by gdmcor (Post 1000798)
Bryanna, I was just wondering if you saw an active infection, if not, the extraction of it will have to wait until I get my MS under control.

I don't know anything about the white spot on the other tooth. :confused: I've had several dentists in the past, so I don't even know who did the crown!

I'm hoping the dentist's adjustments will get rid of my left jaw and ear pain; my bite apparently was really off, and I was only landing on the left side.

Anyway, I had another incident of spasms, weakness and pain in my left leg and arm today. So, it's time to go to the doctor and see what's up. Everything's on the left side. :eek:

I'll have to get another temp crown made for the other tooth that was chipped, but I didn't have it done today, with site #14 still sensitive. The dentist seems to think I need a stronger material made for the next one.

Oh, and they credited the amount I paid on the crown for tooth 14.

Thanks for everything again! Gretchen



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