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shawnie35 07-18-2013 09:49 AM

hey everyone
 
Hey there im new to this site and thought I would check it out. My problem is that I got 3 wisdom teeth removed in april and my bottom left side of lip and chin have been numb since. I was told that happens sometimes but im afraid it could be permanent nerve damage :( any suggestions on what I can do?

gdmcor 07-18-2013 11:32 AM

Hi Shawnie, I would start a new thread stating your problem, so that Bryanna and others can help you with it.

Good luck, Gretchen :)

gdmcor 07-18-2013 11:44 AM

Bryanna, All four of my wisdom teeth were taken out when I was about 20 years old. Also the dentist told me this was tooth #18.

As for the white spot on that other tooth, I now remember who did that crown. At first she did an onlay, so as to save as much of the tooth as possible. It had cracked when I was eating something and had a large amount of silver filling in it.

About a year later, the onlay became loose, so I went back in and had a full crown put on it. Never did it hurt at any time. The onlay was never too secure in my opinion, and it only covered half of the tooth, so perhaps bacteria got in during the time it was on?

I don't know if that explains the white spot, but it's all I know about it. What do you think?

The tooth/organ chart is very interesting and makes me more convinced that my MS symptoms may be attributed to the tooth problems I've been having.

As soon as I get some MRI's done and have a consult with my doctor and neurologist, I will likely get the extraction done on 18.

Thanks again, Bryanna, and let me know what you think of the onlay connection to the white spot!

Gretchen :)

Bryanna 07-18-2013 02:40 PM

Gretchen,

Let me clarify again.... not the white spot on the first molar. Actually that looks like a piece of mercury filling still in that tooth underneath that crown. I am referring to the shiny white area <<in the bone to the right>> of the rc tooth. It looks like there is something embedded in the bone but the xray only shows a small portion of it. Do you see where I am talking about?

I believe that you had your wisdom teeth out. I'm just pointing out that the rc tooth has the root structure of a wisdom tooth which means the large canals can be more difficult to gain access during a root canal procedure because they tend to be fused together rather than separate like they are with your first molar. Sometimes second molars look this way... not often, but sometimes.

I wish you physician and neurologist were more knowledgeable about the correlation between oral and physical health. But chances are, they aren't. However, I would suggest that you inform both of them that you had a painful tooth removed in the upper left and have a root canaled tooth in the lower left. Also, it would be a good idea to get an xray of the area behind that rc tooth to see what that is in the jaw bone just in case it's something contributing to your other problems.

Hang in there...
Bryanna





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Originally Posted by gdmcor (Post 1001003)
Bryanna, All four of my wisdom teeth were taken out when I was about 20 years old. Also the dentist told me this was tooth #18.

As for the white spot on that other tooth, I now remember who did that crown. At first she did an onlay, so as to save as much of the tooth as possible. It had cracked when I was eating something and had a large amount of silver filling in it.

About a year later, the onlay became loose, so I went back in and had a full crown put on it. Never did it hurt at any time. The onlay was never too secure in my opinion, and it only covered half of the tooth, so perhaps bacteria got in during the time it was on?

I don't know if that explains the white spot, but it's all I know about it. What do you think?

The tooth/organ chart is very interesting and makes me more convinced that my MS symptoms may be attributed to the tooth problems I've been having.

As soon as I get some MRI's done and have a consult with my doctor and neurologist, I will likely get the extraction done on 18.

Thanks again, Bryanna, and let me know what you think of the onlay connection to the white spot!

Gretchen :)


gdmcor 07-18-2013 06:00 PM

Okay, I see what you're talking about, Bryanna. I was only looking at the teeth, nothing outside of them.

I am hoping it's nothing, but I'll show it to the dentist when I go back for the temp crown re-make.

My main focus now will have to be to get some help for these spasms, now that a full MS exacerbation is going, I need immediate solutions. I do not believe a root canalled tooth could be causing all of what I'm going through.

I've had MS for 27 years, with a virus probably the cause, in my case.

Thank you for your help!
Gretchen

Bryanna 07-18-2013 07:23 PM

Gretchen,

I know it seems far fetched..... but oral health plays a huge role in systemic health. I'm not implying that we should blame all health problems on our teeth, but ill teeth do affect our immune system.

Yes, please ask your dentist about that area at your next appointment. If he doesn't have a recent xray of that spot, it may be wise to take one.

I'm sorry you're feeling so poorly. I hope things calm down for you very soon.
We're here if you need us :)

Bryanna



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Originally Posted by gdmcor (Post 1001077)
Okay, I see what you're talking about, Bryanna. I was only looking at the teeth, nothing outside of them.

I am hoping it's nothing, but I'll show it to the dentist when I go back for the temp crown re-make.

My main focus now will have to be to get some help for these spasms, now that a full MS exacerbation is going, I need immediate solutions. I do not believe a root canalled tooth could be causing all of what I'm going through.

I've had MS for 27 years, with a virus probably the cause, in my case.

Thank you for your help!
Gretchen


gdmcor 07-19-2013 12:12 PM

I appreciate you being here and offering help and suggestions, Bryanna. :)

You're right, doctors don't seem to take note of oral health. Today when I mentioned having just had two painful tooth extractions, the girl taking info down just said, "that's okay, we don't need to know that".

I wasn't sure what to say, but was somewhat disappointed in her lack of concern and knowledge of total body care and connection. It's surprising, to say the least.

Health care in general is so bad now, you have to be a self advocate or you'll get no where.

I was told today, when trying to get a neurologist referral, that one would have to approve me first, before accepting me. My doctor actually said that a lot of neuros won't take patients with MS anymore! They first have to have the patient's total history and all their paperwork before seeing if they want them as a new client. :eek:

I simply couldn't believe it!

I'll check back with you all when I have new info. :) Gretchen

Bryanna 07-20-2013 03:43 PM

Gretchen,

Mainstream doctors rarely take oral health into consideration unless their patient brings it up. Even then, they often turn a blind eye to it. Their medical training does teach them about the consequences of systemic infections from oral infections.... but for some reason they never remember to ask on simple question... How is your dental health?

Integrative physicians or functional medicine physicians tend to ask their patients about their dental health because they are usually looking past the symptoms and into the cause of a problem.

Depending on your medical insurance, if you are not required to have a primary care physician or gate keeper it use to be (don't know if it still is) that you could chose the specialist of your choice. Perhaps you could check in to your insurance to see if you can do that.??

I find it hard to believe that a neuro dr would want the notes of a general practitioner to base his decision on whether or not to accept a patient simply because the note would not entail enough information. If that is true, I think that is stupid.

Don't just take your drs word on this.. call your insurance and find out. This is crazy indeed!!

Bryanna



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Originally Posted by gdmcor (Post 1001232)
I appreciate you being here and offering help and suggestions, Bryanna. :)

You're right, doctors don't seem to take note of oral health. Today when I mentioned having just had two painful tooth extractions, the girl taking info down just said, "that's okay, we don't need to know that".

I wasn't sure what to say, but was somewhat disappointed in her lack of concern and knowledge of total body care and connection. It's surprising, to say the least.

Health care in general is so bad now, you have to be a self advocate or you'll get no where.

I was told today, when trying to get a neurologist referral, that one would have to approve me first, before accepting me. My doctor actually said that a lot of neuros won't take patients with MS anymore! They first have to have the patient's total history and all their paperwork before seeing if they want them as a new client. :eek:

I simply couldn't believe it!

I'll check back with you all when I have new info. :) Gretchen


Bryanna 07-20-2013 04:15 PM

Shawnie
 
Hi Shawnie,

Have you been back to the oral surgeon that removed your wisdom teeth? If so has he taken a panoramic xray of your mouth and what were his reasons for the long term paresthesia?

Bryanna


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Originally Posted by shawnie35 (Post 1000952)
Hey there im new to this site and thought I would check it out. My problem is that I got 3 wisdom teeth removed in april and my bottom left side of lip and chin have been numb since. I was told that happens sometimes but im afraid it could be permanent nerve damage :( any suggestions on what I can do?


gdmcor 07-21-2013 11:02 PM

Hi Bryanna, I think I will call my insurance and ask some questions about specialists.

I do like my PC doctor, she does what I ask, takes tests that I want, etc. I think I will get a quicker app. if they get one for me.

There are a lot of neuros who don't know a lot about MS. An MS specialist or clinic is the best place to go, but I would have to research that a lot. Right now I just need good relief from these spasms I'm now having daily.

Thank you for everything......:) Gretchen


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