Originally Posted by Bryanna

Hi natalala,

Welcome and thank you for the kind words

I am going to re post some of your thread and answer you in bold type. It's easier to follow this way.

<<I also had a small fistula above the tooth so I finally decided to remove it.>>
THE FISTULA INDICATES THAT THE BACTERIA HAD SPREAD FROM THE TOOTH INTO THE JAWBONE. REMOVING THE SOURCE OF THE INFECTION, WHICH WAS THE TOOTH, WAS A WISE DECISION. HOWEVER, IT MAY BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO TAKE THE ANTIBIOTIC TO TRY TO CLEAR UP THE INFECTION IN THE BONE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ALSO TAKE A PROBIOTIC SUPPLEMENT EVERY DAY ... ONE HOUR BEFORE OR TWO HOURS AFTER THE FIRST AND LAST DOSAGE OF THE DAY. SO WHILE ON THE ANTIBIOTIC THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 2 PROBIOTIC PILLS PER DAY. THEN STAY ON THE PROBIOTIC ONE TIME A DAY FOR AT LEAST 3 WEEKS OR LONGER. I PERSONALLY TAKE A PROBIOTIC SUPPLEMENT EVERY DAY WITHOUT FAIL AND HAVE DONE SO FOR MANY YEARS. IF YOU NEED AN EXPLANATION OF A PROBIOTIC, LET ME KNOW AND I WILL GIVE THAT TO YOU.

<<Today the surgeon did the extraction and he divided the tooth into 3 parts for removal (i just read that that was very dangerous but i didn't know!).>>

ACTUALLY, IN MANY CASES IT IS BEST TO DELIBERATELY DIVIDE A MOLAR TOOTH INTO EACH ROOT SECTION AND REMOVE EACH SECTION INDIVIDUALLY. THIS ENABLES THE DENTIST TO REMOVE THE TOOTH WITH LESS FORCE AND THERE IS LESS OVERALL TRAUMA TO THE JAWBONE. THERE IS NO REASON FOR YOU TO BE CONCERNED OR UPSET THAT HE DID THAT. IT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.

<<And after he finished he said that in fact there was infection there and he scraped the area for less than 15 seconds and proceed to stiching up the area.>>

OKAY SO AS SUSPECTED WITH ALL RC TEETH, THERE IS GOING TO BE INFECTION AND HE CONFIRMED THAT THERE WAS. THE AMOUNT OF TIME HE SPENT SCRAPING IS IRRELEVANT IF HIS SCRAPING WAS THOROUGH. SOMETIMES IT ONLY TAKE 15-30 SECONDS TO REMOVE THE LIGAMENT AND NECROTIC TISSUE. WHEN THE INFECTION HAS BEEN LONG STANDING THAT IS WHEN THE SCRAPING USUALLY TAKES LONGER AS THE BACTERIA HAS SPREAD FURTHER. I WOULD NOT BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AT THIS POINT AS IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE HE PERFORMED THE EXTRACTION VERY WELL.

<<1- I didnt take the prescribed amoxicilin. I had 60 drops of 10 ppm colloidal silver instead. Do you think that I'm risking too much if I dont take the antibiotics? My family says that i should not take the risk and im confused because i read that antibiotics are not effective in many of these cases>>

COLLOIDAL SILVER IS OKAY TO USE. BUT SINCE YOU HAD THE FISTULA, I THINK IT MAY BE BEST TO TAKE THE ANTIBIOTIC AS I MENTIONED ABOVE.

<<2- Today I had a complete water fast after the extraction. Ive been researching about the power of fasting for healing our body and I wonder if it also applies to this case. What do you think about it? I want to help my body as much as i can to fight the infection and i though that fasting might help the body to focus on that.>>

THE WATER FAST WAS A FANTASTIC IDEA PROVIDING THAT THE WATER IS PURE FILTERED WATER. I AM 100% IN FAVOR OF THIS, YES!! DRINKING PLENTY OF WATER WILL FLUSH OUT TOXINS AND BACTERIA BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE. HOWEVER, IT WILL NOT CURE THE BACTERIA LIVING IN THE BONE. IT IS BEST TO CONTINUE TO DRINK PLENTY OF WATER EVERY DAY, THROUGHOUT THE DAY. INCORPORATE PLENTY OF WHOLE FOODS INTO YOUR DIET LIKE VARIOUS FRUITS, VEGETABLES AND LEGUMES WHICH ARE HIGH IN NUTRIENTS AND FIBER WHICH HAVE A CLEANSING AFFECT ON THE SYSTEM. AVOID ALL REFINED SUGAR, SUGAR SUBSTITUTES, SOFT DRINKS, PRE MADE FRUIT JUICES AND PROCESSED FOODS AS ALL OF THESE ARE TOXIC TO THE IMMUNE SYSTEM AND WILL SLOW DOWN THE HEALING PROCESS.

<<3- I could try to go back to the surgeon during the week to ask for the proper cleansing of the bone. But would that be pointless or not? Im afraid it would be too late and also there is the fact that he already stiched the area.>>

I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. FROM YOUR DESCRIPTION, I THINK HE FOLLOWED THE PROPER PROTOCOL. IF YOU DEVELOP ANY SYMPTOMS THAT YOU FEEL ARE UNUSUAL OR YOU FEEL THE SITE IS NOT HEALING WELL, THEN SEE HIM AGAIN. DID HE SCHEDULE A POST OP APPOINTMENT FOR YOU IN A WEEK OR SO?

<<Muchas muchas gracias Bryanna!>>

DE NADA!

Originally Posted by Bryanna

Hi natalala,

Kefir is a great probiotic. However, it is best to make it home made as the processed products are not very potent and usually have sugar in them. It takes time to make kefir so you could start a batch and in the meantime supplement with a pill form. The probiotic that I often recommend when someone is taking an antibiotic is called Culturelle. You can purchase it on the culturelle website or at vitacost.com. In the US Culturelle can be found in most drug stores and large supermarkets. Don't know if that is the same in Argentina or not. The sooner you start on it the better.

I would suggest that you use warm salt water as your mouth rinse. You can add some colloidal silver to it, but the salt is the best medicinal you can use for oral surgery.

Hopefully all will go well and when you see your surgeon next week he will be pleased with the healing!

Again, thank you for the kind words
To answer your question about writing a book.... I have been putting material together for several years now and hope to write a book one day!

Take care,
Bryanna

Originally Posted by natalala

Hi Bryanna!
Yes, I use to do my own kefir at home but you are right that it takes time to start. The thing is that it will also take time if I buy the probiotics abroad to get to Argentina. I tried in the website you suggested but it didn´t work out because of a postal code error. And neither found probiotics here
I just found one pill that is selled here as "antidiarreic" containing the following bacteria: Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bifidobacterium bifidum Bacillus subtilis, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, Bacteriófagos against: Escherichia coli, Proteus sp, Shigella dysenteriae, Shigella flexneri, Salmonella paratyphi A, B y C, Pseudomonas aeruginosa y Enterococcus sp. Excipientes: lactosa, povidona, estearato de magnesio.
What do you think about?
Fortunatelly the healing process seems to go very well
Looking forward to buy your book! How would we find out about it?
Cheers!

Originally Posted by Bryanna

Hi Natalala,

Yes, that one should be okay. Keep the bottle in the refrigerator to help prevent the bacteria from dying off. The bacteria are very sensitive to heat.

Take one pill on an empty stomach as soon as you wake up. Then wait an hour to eat breakfast. You an drink plenty of water in that hour, that is okay.

Take a second pill on an empty stomach about 20 minutes or so before you go to sleep at night.

Continue taking two per day for 5 days after the last antibiotic pill.
Then take only one per day, on an empty stomach for 30 days.

You may have some mild digestive issues, like bloating or gasiness but unless it is debilitating, keep taking the probiotic. If those things become problematic or do not go away after 2 or 3 days, then reduce the dosage to one time per day. If you still experience a problem then take it with food.

Hopefully you will do well on the probiotic and it will do it's job at replenishing your intestines with good bacteria.

Glad to hear that the healing is going well!

Keep us posted
Bryanna

Originally Posted by natalala

Hola dear Bryanna!

Thanks a lot for the probiotics instructions! I'm taking them as you indicated and everything is going very well
I still have some inflammation in the area but I can see how the wound gets better every day. Yesterday I went to the surgeon to remove the stitches and I fell much better after that. I will go back next week to him to get done a removable tooth because I was said that if I left a space that could create problems with my bite. What do you think about that?

After all this traumatic experience of having done a root canal and then remove it whit infection one year after, Im pretty sure that I don´t want to go trough that again. So I'm more aware of the importance of the health of my mouth, also because I've been reading about Neurofocal dentistry and the big impact of the mouth health on the general health.

That is why I want to take better care of my tooth but I find hard to make the right decisions since there is a lot of disinformation or misinformation here in Argentina (and in the world I guess).
In particular now, I have to decide what to do with my 5 mercury amalgams (that I have since Im a teenager, I'm 32 now). After much reading I'm quite sure that I should remove them but the thing is that here in argentina there is not a single dentist that follows the safety protocol for removing them. So I can't decide. I thought that maybe with the right nutrition I could tolerate the toxicity of the removal process but i'm not sure... And also Im afraid that in the case of the bigger amalgams, the replacement of them will go bad very soon and then I will have to remove the tooth (because I won't accept another root canal).
I send you a picture of my mouth and a panoramic rx that I had done this week to make more graphic my questions

Inmense thanks Bryanna for all your generosity and dedication!

Natalia

Originally Posted by Bryanna

Hi Natalia,

Thanks for posting the panorex and photo.

Did you go to an actual oral surgeon for the extraction or a general dentist?

Have you had any problems either before or after the tooth removal with your sinuses? Do you currently have any odd sinus drainage into your mouth or feel a sensation of air in the area of the extraction when you breath in either through your nose or open mouth? Did the dentist mention anything to you about a sinus perforation or the tooth being close to the sinus?

The reason for all the questions about the sinus is because on the panorex it looks like there could be a sinus perforation where the cyst was at the end of the root. You had a fistula above that tooth I can see evidence of that on the xray as well. Many times sinus perforations heal on their own as long as the surrounding area is healthy. If you are not having any sinus or odd air sensation as I described, then don't worry about it. The sinus membrane may have already closed over and it is just not evident on the xray. But I wanted to make you aware of it just in case you were having symptoms of it.

Glad to hear that you are taking the probiotic and feel well!!!

You said you are having a removable tooth done. A couple of things...

1) Oral surgeons at least in the US only perform oral surgery, they do not perform restorative procedures, like fillings or making false teeth and such, general dentists do. Perhaps it is different in Argentina?

2) By removable do you mean a partial denture or a nesbit appliance? I ask because you are not missing any other teeth in your upper arch and so whatever is made for you would need to be small and just replace that one tooth. Be sure of what you are getting before you have it done, okay That area is not at all ready for a dental implant so be cautious if he tells you that it is.

Regarding the removal of your mercury fillings... if you can go to a dentist who follows the safe removal protocol.... unless you break a filling, get decay underneath a filling or a tooth with a filling breaks, it is best to NOT have the mercury fillings removed. Yes they are leaching mercury into your system but the mercury is the most toxic during the placement and during the removal of them. So unless you absolutely have to take one out, don't do it.

If you have to take one out, you should insist that your dentist do the following:

1)Use a rubber damn to isolate the tooth he is working on.
2)Remove the mercury filling in large pieces rather than drilling into it and causing it to go all over the place.
3)Use the high powered suction directly over the tooth during the removal of the filling.
4)Do not remove the rubber damn until all of the pieces of filling that are laying in the rubber damn are washed out and sucked up. The assistant or the dentist can use their water syringe in one hand and suction in the other to get all of the pieces. This way when the rubber damn is removed, you will not have a mouthful of mercury.

This may sound odd to have to tell your dentist to do this... but in all honesty it is in your best interest to make sure that he at least takes those precautions. Tell him you want to limit the exposure of mercury and he will understand why you want him to do that... even if he gives you the impression it's not necessary. Okay?

Regarding nutrition.... you can definitely lower your burden of toxins through diet. The mercury will always be coming off of those fillings but if your immune system is healthy, then the burden from the mercury will be less to your immune system.

Healthy diets for most people is simply.... organic and non gmo.... whole fresh foods, lots of variety of veggies and fruits, whole grains, variety of nuts and nut butters, grass fed meat and eggs, and lots of filtered water. Avoid sugar, sugar substitutes, processed foods, all soft drinks, and fast food. Make your own home made goodies with whole grain flour like almond, oats, quinoa, coconut, etc. Use local honey as a sweetener. Do you have local honey in Argentina? If not, what do you use as healthy sweetener?

Hope this information is helpful to you!
Bryanna

Originally Posted by natalala

Hi Bryanna!

I went to an oral surgeon for the extraction.
I was aware of the risk of sinus perforation after all the research I did, and I mentioned it to the surgeon before the extraction but he didn't give importance to it.

I didn't understand well if you said that you could or couldn't see evidence of sinus perforation in the xray. Is it possible that I had perforation if I didn't have those symptoms?

So far I haven't felt any odd sinus drainage o sensation of air in the area when I breath, but what I do fell all the time is (still) a sensation of inflammation (like a beating) in the area and also a focused pain there every time I make a step (when walking). The pain is decreasing a bit with the time, but it is still there. Is that normal after 10 days of the extraction?

And another thing that I observed is that the fistula in the side of mu gum seems to be bigger and harder than before I had the tooth extracted (when I touch it with my finger), and in the whole where the molar was, there is a little white thing that come out from the gum and that I sense with my tongue as if it was a piece of food stuck there (but it is not). I've been reading today about oroantral fistulas after extraction of an upper molar. Do you think that mine might be that case? And if so, Is that something that I should worry about (e.g that could lead to bacteria in the brain and so?). I just took some pictures now and the area doesn't look good at all... I attach them so you can see what I talk about. I took also some pictures some days ago so I put them together here so you can see the evolution (or involution :S)

Replying to your questions:

1) Oral surgeons at least in the US only perform oral surgery, they do not perform restorative procedures, like fillings or making false teeth and such, general dentists do. Perhaps it is different in Argentina?

Here It seems that they do, at least the ones I consulted to. But more than fillings I guess they do false teeth, implants and so. I will ask him this week when I go and will let you know

2) By removable do you mean a partial denture or a nesbit appliance? I ask because you are not missing any other teeth in your upper arch and so whatever is made for you would need to be small and just replace that one tooth. Be sure of what you are getting before you have it done, okay That area is not at all ready for a dental implant so be cautious if he tells you that it is.

I mean nesbit appliance to replace just that one tooth without touching the rest. Do you think it is worth to have one done in order to maintain the space between my molars? Or not really necessary?
Thanks for your advise about the implant! I thought the same just by common sense, and here's the story: before going to this surgeon I went to another one that suggested to remove the tooth and put the implant straight away (in the same moment) because of the quality of blood and osteoblasts and bla bla. And I refused completely because of the infection. There, I discovered that his main reason was monetary when he refused to do only the extraction with which he couldn't charge as much to the health care insurance. Very sad.

I though the same that you say about the mercury fillings but then I started reading about the leaching and also about oral galvanism, that's why I wanted to hear your opinion. This biological dentist I went to, insisted in removing them asap and he didn't give any importance to the removal protocol and he wasn't even aware of it I guess. It didn't sound good to me neither. I'm glad to discover that my common sense makes sense for you that have the knowledge and experience!
Do you have any opinion about oral galvanism?

About healthy diet, I agree! The simplest (less processed) the better, as in life Here you can find every time more options luckily. For sweetener that you asked, we do have local honey and also can find natural stevia (leaves). I prefer honey because I find stevia a bit with metalic taste.

You should come to argentina to teach about all this knowledge to dentists from here that are so misinformed (even the biological ones)!

Your replies are always super helpful! Mil gracias!

Cheers!

Natalia

Originally Posted by natalala

Hi Dear Bryanna!
I´m coming back after a while with some news and with a new question for you
The removal of my infected root canal (for which I wrote you previously in this post) finally finished prefectly and the wound is already cured. I´m still not convinced of having an implant done in that empty space so in the meantime I asked a dental mechanic friend to make me a special aparatus with only 3 hooks so that i can use it without the hook being noticed. I remove it for eating some times and for sleeping every night. I feel it tight but Im aware of the danger of swallowing it so I´m very carefull. So far it is working ok! I would like to know your opinion about it. I attach a pic of my cured wound and of my new aparathus
And I specially write to you this time becaus I´m considering the possibility of removing some of my mercury fillings and replacing them with ceramic inlays. And would like to hear your advice about it!
Enormous thanks for you wonderful help as usual!
Cheers!
Natalia