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Old 10-19-2014, 06:48 PM #1
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Hi,

I have severe neurological issues, for no apparent reason, and I wonder if that might be caused by the extensive dental jobs I've undergone in the course of the last around 15 years. I believe I had done everything apart from implants. But recently I've got a tianium semi-implant (a few titanium rods inserted in the tooth canal to restore the tooth and put a bridge on it). I see titanium is suspected of causing neurological problems. My neuro issues were seriously worse a few weeks after that.

I will probably ask to have it removed. It can all be done probably with zirconia. Is zirconia safe?

How to detox myself from that titanium in the meantime?

I also wonder about 2 bridges which i have had for a long time now. I dont know what they are made of. I only know I dont have amalgam (I believe..)

Does anybody have experience with this kind of issues?
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Hi anecska,

I am going to re post your thread and reply to you in bold type as this makes it easier to follow.

<<I have severe neurological issues, for no apparent reason, and I wonder if that might be caused by the extensive dental jobs I've undergone in the course of the last around 15 years.>>

WHAT ARE YOUR SYMPTOMS AND HAVE YOU BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH A NEUROLOGICAL CONDITION?

<< I believe I had done everything apart from implants. But recently I've got a tianium semi-implant (a few titanium rods inserted in the tooth canal to restore the tooth and put a bridge on it).>>

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY SEMI IMPLANT. WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED IS A "POST" NOT AN IMPLANT. POSTS ARE PLACED AND CEMENTED ON THE INSIDE AREA OF THE ROOT OF A TOOTH AFTER A ROOT CANAL PROCEDURE IS DONE. THEN THE CROWN OR BRIDGE IS MADE TO COVER THE POST OR POSTS. POSTS ARE MADE FROM EITHER STAINLESS STEEL, TITANIUM, OR CAST METAL. HERE IS SOME INFORMATION ON POSTS TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND BETTER.
http://www.animated-teeth.com/root_c...****_crown.htm

<<I see titanium is suspected of causing neurological problems. My neuro issues were seriously worse a few weeks after that.>>

TITANIUM LIKE ANY OTHER METAL OR DENTAL MATERIAL CAN HAVE SOME ADVERSE AFFECTS ON SOME PEOPLE IF THEY ARE SENSITIVE OR ALLERGIC TO THAT PARTICULAR MATERIAL. THEREFORE, TITANIUM PERSAY IS NOT A METAL THAT CAUSES NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS FOR ALL PEOPLE.

WHAT I THINK COULD BE HAPPENING IS THAT BECAUSE ALL ROOT CANALED TEETH ARE CHRONICALLY INFLAMED AND INFECTED, IT IS PROBABLY NOT THE TITANIUM THAT HAS BEEN USED THAT IS CAUSING OR CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR SYMPTOMS, IT IS THE SICK TEETH CAUSING THE RPOBLEMS.

<<I will probably ask to have it removed. It can all be done probably with zirconia. Is zirconia safe?>>

IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU WOULD BE WASTING YOUR TIME AND MONEY TO DO THAT. THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE TEETH ARE NOT HEALTHY AND THEY NEVER WILL BE. SO IT IS IRRELEVANT WHAT METAL OR MATERIAL IS USED FOR THE POSTS BECAUSE THE TEETH WILL REMAIN SICK. SO YOUR SYMPTOMS WILL NOT GO AWAY AFTER YOU CHANGE THE POSTS. ROOT CANALED TEETH CONTINUE TO BREW WITH INFECTION THAT EVENTUALLY SPREADS BEYOND THE TOOTH. UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO WAY TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO GO YEARS WITHOUT OBVIOUS "ORAL" SYMPTOMS INDICATING THE PROBLEM, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS ONE AND MOST LIKELY THE SYMPTOMS OF THE INFECTION ARE MANIFESTING IN SOME OTHER AREA OF THE BODY. WHILE OTHERS HAVE OBVIOUS SYMPTOMS IN THEIR MOUTH, FACE, HEAD, ETC.

<<SECONDLY,How to detox myself from that titanium in the meantime?>>

YOU CAN ONLY DETOX FROM AN IRRITANT LIKE A METAL IF YOU REMOVE THE METAL FROM YOUR BODY. OTHERWISE YOU ARE JUST CONTINUOUSLY PULLING THAT METAL THROUGH YOUR BODY AND TISSUES AS YOU DETOX, NEVER GETTING RID OF IT. YOU ALSO HAVE TO DETOX UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF SOMEONE WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH DOING THAT RATHER THAN DOING IT ON YOUR OWN. TRUE DETOXIFICATION IS NOT AS EASY AS IT IS MADE OUT TO BE. BUT AGAIN, THE PROBLEMS YOU ARE HAVING ARE MORE LIKELY DUE TO THE TEETH THAN THE TITANIUM.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY WAY TO RID YOURSELF OF THE INFLAMMATION AND INFECTION IS TO REMOVE THE SOURCE OF THOSE ISSUES WHICH ARE THE ROOT CANALED TEETH. KEEPING UNHEALTHY TEETH MEANS KEEPING THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

<<I also wonder about 2 bridges which i have had for a long time now. I dont know what they are made of. I only know I dont have amalgam (I believe..)>>

DENTAL BRIDGES CAN BE MADE OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT MATERIALS. IF YOU HAVE ROOT CANALED TEETH UNDERNEATH THOSE BRIDGES, THE SAME ISSUES PERTAIN TO THOSE TEETH AS I HAVE DESCRIBED ABOVE. ALSO SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW IS THAT MANY TIMES WHEN AN AMALGAM FILLED TOOTH IS PREPARED FOR A BRIDGE, THE DENTIST WILL LEAVE A PORTION OF THAT OLD AMALGAM (MERCURY) FILLING IN THE TOOTH AS A BASE. OR HE WILL BUILD UP THE AREA AROUND A POST WITH AN AMALGAM (MERCURY) FILLING MATERIAL AND THEN IT GETS COVERED BY THE BRIDGE. ANYTIME ANY AMALGAM (MERCURY) IS LEFT IN A TOOTH IT IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM FOR THE HEALTH OF THAT TOOTH AND THAT PATIENT BECAUSE MERCURY IN ANY FORM ANY PLACE IN THE BODY IS TOXIC.

I have given you a lot of information here that you may not have been aware of. Read it over and let me know if you have other questions.

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Hi there.

WHAT ARE YOUR SYMPTOMS AND HAVE YOU BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH A NEUROLOGICAL CONDITION?

My symptoms resemble a peripheral neuropathy. Done all checks years ago, nothing conclusive was found. Need to re-check now, because it is obviously worsening.

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY SEMI IMPLANT. WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED IS A "POST" NOT AN IMPLANT.

This was what I meant.


TITANIUM LIKE ANY OTHER METAL OR DENTAL MATERIAL CAN HAVE SOME ADVERSE AFFECTS ON SOME PEOPLE IF THEY ARE SENSITIVE OR ALLERGIC TO THAT PARTICULAR MATERIAL.

Is there an easy way to find out if it is any metal poisoning? I would think there must be some blood test to find out?


UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY WAY TO RID YOURSELF OF THE INFLAMMATION AND INFECTION IS TO REMOVE THE SOURCE OF THOSE ISSUES WHICH ARE THE ROOT CANALED TEETH.

Would you suggest to get them removed? If so, what would you put in their place?
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aneczka,

So the symptoms have been present for a long time. Would you say the timing of the symptoms was around the time just before or sometime after those teeth were root canaled?

There is a blood test that can test your reactions to dental materials. Here are two links to those tests:
http://www.biocomplaboratories.com/index.html
http://www.ccrlab.com/

But like I said, whether or not you are sensitive to the metals, is only a small part of the whole problem as the ill health of those teeth are the main problem.

Unfortunately the only option to remove the source of the problem is to remove the teeth. Because the root canals were done so long ago, it may not be possible to also remove the residual bacteria in the surrounding bone as that has been growing there for years and it may not be able to be seen clinically or radio graphically as it hides in the nooks an crannies of bone. So you may be left with the same or similar symptoms that you currently have. The difference would be that the source of the problem would be gone which gives your immune system the opportunity to heal the wounds and possibly the bone completely as well. It is inevitable that those teeth are going to be extracted at some point. The longer you keep them, the more the bacteria spreads. So that is something you need to keep in mind.

Chances are you are not going to get this same information from your dentist unless he is a Biological dentist who understands this aspect of dentistry.

Replacement options, should you extract them, are limited because of the longevity of those root canaled teeth. The bone needs to be very healthy to receive a dental implant without complications. Generally the bone surrounding older root canaled teeth is not healthy enough for implants.

I don't know what the rest of your mouth looks like as to what other teeth you are missing so I don't know if you would be a candidate for a longer bridge or a removable partial denture.

I know this information is not what you had hoped to hear. I am sorry if your dentists have not informed you of any of this prior to your consent to do the dentistry.

To learn more.... google Dr Mercola and root canals. Or you could search for a biological dentist..
http://iabdm.org/about-iabdm/ (you may have to call them)
httP://iaomt.org

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Hi there.

WHAT ARE YOUR SYMPTOMS AND HAVE YOU BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH A NEUROLOGICAL CONDITION?

My symptoms resemble a peripheral neuropathy. Done all checks years ago, nothing conclusive was found. Need to re-check now, because it is obviously worsening.

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY SEMI IMPLANT. WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED IS A "POST" NOT AN IMPLANT.

This was what I meant.


TITANIUM LIKE ANY OTHER METAL OR DENTAL MATERIAL CAN HAVE SOME ADVERSE AFFECTS ON SOME PEOPLE IF THEY ARE SENSITIVE OR ALLERGIC TO THAT PARTICULAR MATERIAL.

Is there an easy way to find out if it is any metal poisoning? I would think there must be some blood test to find out?


UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY WAY TO RID YOURSELF OF THE INFLAMMATION AND INFECTION IS TO REMOVE THE SOURCE OF THOSE ISSUES WHICH ARE THE ROOT CANALED TEETH.

Would you suggest to get them removed? If so, what would you put in their place?
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