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Old 04-11-2015, 02:56 PM #11
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Amit,

The other replacement options other than dental implants are removable partial dentures or permanent bridges. Removable partials are an appliance that replaces missing teeth and you take it out to clean and sleep. Permanent bridges require the an adjacent tooth on each side of the missing tooth/teeth to be shaved down so the connecting crowns can b put ont them. Those crowns are adhered to a fake tooth/teeth (pontics) that fill the empty space where the real tooth use to be. This bridge gets permanently cemented onto the adjacent crowned teeth.

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I am feeling OK now. I have now two premolars removed on my lower left jawbone and one premolar on the upper left.

What is the best option to replace them in future ? I am doing some research on implants etc.

I really fear implants as I have read even they carry health risks. I have read that Titanium when embedded into the bone causes something called as galvanisation. It may also cause autoimmune disease or exacerbate an already existing one.
Also I have read that during the process of fixing titanium implants there is a small risk of alveolar nerve damage which may be permanent and extremely traumatic and painful. I know there are Ceraroot fully metal free Zirconia
implants but my dentist here said they carry fracture risk. Also they are way expensive. The dentist here says Titanium is good because it osseointegrates nicely into the bone. I really dont know who to believe.

So what other option do I have other than an implant. I really fear something embedded into the bone as per my internet search,all biological dentists say implants carry serious health risks.

Is there an option where nothing is embedded into the bone?

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Hi Bryanna,

I am feeling million times better after having my root canal removed. I hope there isn't any infection left. I always have the cavitation fear lurking in my sub conscious mind. Only time will tell. I spoke with two dentists here in Mumbai. Both are educated in the USA and very renowned. They said we aren't aware of anything called as a cavitation. That is your figment of imagination. Something like a cavitation doesn't exist. They denied its existence. There is nothing like this in the dental text books, they said. I was surprised. Moreover,they said root canals are ABSOLUTELY 100% SAFE ,EFFECTIVE and last for life. That is what they have been taught in dental schools.

I read in most of the threads you have replied that a ROOT CANAL IS ALWAYS INFECTED not just when one sees an abscess below it on an OPG.That is the final stage. If this is the case,the whole purpose of doing a root canal is defeated as a root canal is done to actually remove an infected pulp and save tooth.I still wonder how can ADA allow root canals ? ADA should start thinking about overall health of people and think beyond just money. Those people who have systemic diseases will pass them on
to their children and one fine day,everyone will have a systemic disease in his genes at birth. Almost 75% of problems on this forum are related to root canals. ADA should stop thinking about money and think what is good for people. They should ban RCs affront at the earliest if possible today. Endodontists are PRODUCING newer diseases via root canals for which medical science has no answer. When will the ADA understand this.

If you take my case, I had severe neuralgia,depression,headache because of my root canals and a host of other problems. I visited all possible doctors - a neurologist,a haematologist, a psychiatrist ,ENT specialist and many others one can think of. I did MRIs,PET/CT scan,no of blood tests on their recommendation. I got my eyes checked for any optic nerve problem and what not. Nobody could tell why I was feeling sick. It WAS ALL BECAUSE OF THE ROOT CANALS. I diagnosed it myself . My endodontists here even now refuse to accept root canal can cause all this. They say root canals are as safe as natural healthy teeth.

Removing root canals may save your life - I can say definitely.

The goal of ADA should be to educate people to prevent cavities in the first place. I am not an expert.I am just putting my views. I have the feeling dentists actually want people to have their teeth decayed forever as that is how they would be able to make a living.

Also I have a doubt in my mind. You mentioned bridges require teeth on either side to be shaped so that crowns fit on them. In that process,the enamel of those teeth may have to be scraped and the dentin might get exposed. Is this safe ? It might infect those teeth and make the situation even worse in the long run. To fill one tooth,one might eventually loose 2 teeth.


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I'm sure many people looking for help online probably do have some sort of infection or issue due to RC's.
But there are very many people in the world that have RC's and have no problems..
It is just the roll of the dice like so many things in life.
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Hi Jo*mar,

The vast majority of the people who have no issues with RCs would never ever think in their wildest dreams that whatever issues they have
are because of root canals. Because those innocent people have been told by their dentists that root canals are 100% safe,effective and
last for a lifetime. And unfortunately they would believe their dentist because he is considered to be an authority on the subject.

Just like in my case,they must be groping in the dark with other medical specialists to see if they can diagnose anything to relieve them of thier sickness. The problem lies just below their nose. This is the bitter truth.

The dentists that I spoke to here told me that I have gone insane and that I need psychiatric help. The problem lies in your head,they said.

Even asymptomatic root canals are as dangerous as those that seem to be infected. I read this only yesterday. In fact,as per Weston Price's research over a century ago, contrary to conventional wisdom, an abscess is a sign that the body is launching a huge fight against the toxins. He surprisingly found the abscess in root canals to be almost sterile. As per him, it is the body's attempt to isolate the source of toxins which is the root canal. As per his research (I am not saying this) ,he examined the periapical
region of those who did not have any abscess or symptoms below the root canal. In 100% of the cases, he found it to be infected with all types of bacteria.

I also visited Dr Mercola's and Hal Huggins's views and and they say asymptomatic root canals may be more dangerous because one may feel there are no issues with the root canals.


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Hi Amit,

It is very unfortunate when dealing with a health crisis to repetitively find yourself in a quandary of dishonesty and incompetence. Whether it be dental and/or medical related, it is still an awful predicament to be in. You have repetitively found the courage to push through the adversaries and just kept focused on gathering knowledge from honest and reputable sources. Paying attention to your intuition, being mindful of your physical symptoms and connecting it all with your new knowledge is what it took to get the cooperation that you needed to move forward. I truly commend you for your tenacity and courage.

I am so glad that you are feeling better and hopefully you will continue to improve and become symptom free!

Regarding cavitations.... all dental schools educate their students on jaw bone infections including cavitations. However, some dental schools put more emphasis on restorative dentistry and less on jaw bone infections. When a student completes the basic 4 year program and continues their study of oral surgery, this is when the education changes and delves deeper into pathology.

Cavitations can form in any bone in the body and they not only occur from infection but from trauma or certain medications that disturb the natural balance of bone breakdown called osteoclastic resorption while enhancing the building of bone called osteoblastic formation.

For instance if a tooth is extracted too aggressively and the integrity of the jaw bone is unnecessarily compromised to the point that new bone is unable to grow properly, a cavitation can occur. Another example would be an accidental injury to the mouth, teeth or jaw bone resulting in the same situation as I mentioned above. Pharmaceutical drugs in the Bisphosphonate family that are given to people to prevent or reduce generalized bone loss can ultimately cause injured, traumatized or infected bone to not heal properly which can lead to osteonecrosis of the bone or cavitation.

There is a ton of information online about bone cavitations. But here is just a glimpse for those who are doubtful that they exist.........
http://maxillofacialcenter.com/NICOcause.html

Also, dental students are taught how to perform a root canal procedure and included in those teachings are the biology and pathology associated with the risks of keeping non vital teeth. The notion that root canaled teeth are healthy and will remain healthy for a lifetime without harmful systemic consequences is not a part of their curriculum. That misinformation stems from the commonly shared marketing strategies amongst the profession and its governing bodies to keep this procedure as one of the most lucrative procedures in the profession.

In a perfect world, our dentists and doctors would be like saints and very devoted to their patients well being. However, we do not have a ‘health care’ system at all. Instead we have a disease management system that is deeply dysfunctional and getting more so by the day.

I will reply to your replacement option questions in a separate note.

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I am feeling million times better after having my root canal removed. I hope there isn't any infection left. I always have the cavitation fear lurking in my sub conscious mind. Only time will tell. I spoke with two dentists here in Mumbai. Both are educated in the USA and very renowned. They said we aren't aware of anything called as a cavitation. That is your figment of imagination. Something like a cavitation doesn't exist. They denied its existence. There is nothing like this in the dental text books, they said. I was surprised. Moreover,they said root canals are ABSOLUTELY 100% SAFE ,EFFECTIVE and last for life. That is what they have been taught in dental schools.

I read in most of the threads you have replied that a ROOT CANAL IS ALWAYS INFECTED not just when one sees an abscess below it on an OPG.That is the final stage. If this is the case,the whole purpose of doing a root canal is defeated as a root canal is done to actually remove an infected pulp and save tooth.I still wonder how can ADA allow root canals ? ADA should start thinking about overall health of people and think beyond just money. Those people who have systemic diseases will pass them on
to their children and one fine day,everyone will have a systemic disease in his genes at birth. Almost 75% of problems on this forum are related to root canals. ADA should stop thinking about money and think what is good for people. They should ban RCs affront at the earliest if possible today. Endodontists are PRODUCING newer diseases via root canals for which medical science has no answer. When will the ADA understand this.

If you take my case, I had severe neuralgia,depression,headache because of my root canals and a host of other problems. I visited all possible doctors - a neurologist,a haematologist, a psychiatrist ,ENT specialist and many others one can think of. I did MRIs,PET/CT scan,no of blood tests on their recommendation. I got my eyes checked for any optic nerve problem and what not. Nobody could tell why I was feeling sick. It WAS ALL BECAUSE OF THE ROOT CANALS. I diagnosed it myself . My endodontists here even now refuse to accept root canal can cause all this. They say root canals are as safe as natural healthy teeth.

Removing root canals may save your life - I can say definitely.

The goal of ADA should be to educate people to prevent cavities in the first place. I am not an expert.I am just putting my views. I have the feeling dentists actually want people to have their teeth decayed forever as that is how they would be able to make a living.

Also I have a doubt in my mind. You mentioned bridges require teeth on either side to be shaped so that crowns fit on them. In that process,the enamel of those teeth may have to be scraped and the dentin might get exposed. Is this safe ? It might infect those teeth and make the situation even worse in the long run. To fill one tooth,one might eventually loose 2 teeth.


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Hi Jo*mar,

Rolling the dice indicates that one is taking a chance and ironically that couldn't be any more true when it comes to root canaled teeth. However, the fact that endodontics is not being marketed as "taking a chance" unfortunately leaves the impression that all is well.

Yes, there are many people all over the world who have root canaled teeth and think they are well. Just as there are many people all over the world who smoke and think they are fine too. Many people live with diseases unbeknown to them until something goes terribly wrong or until their autopsy diagnoses their cause of death.

Taking chances in life is a personal choice and we all do it. Perhaps when it comes to health related procedures like root canal therapy, it would be beneficial to be informed that we were rolling the dice before we consented to doing it.

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I'm sure many people looking for help online probably do have some sort of infection or issue due to RC's.
But there are very many people in the world that have RC's and have no problems..
It is just the roll of the dice like so many things in life.
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Right here is the worst cases of root canal disasters.
http://www.dentalwatch.org/questiona.../overview.html
ADA and FDA do not promote use of this but obviously it didn't matter to some dentists!
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Hi,

I beg to differ in your comments. The outcome of Root canals are not a roll of the dice.

Accidents are a roll of the dice. Accidental fire in a building could be a roll of dice.NOT root canals.

I am sure ADA is very well aware of the harmful effects of root canals.

Till date ,there has been NOT a single comprehensive and thorough systematic study on the effects of root canals or dental procedures on the other parts/organs of the body. Such a study would take time duration of something between 10-15 years at least. If such a study is done, I am more than 100% sure, it will expose how dangerous dental procedures are,not just root canals. ADA is very well aware of this. They fear the dental profession itself might be in danger. The truth is they DONT INTEND to do any
such study. ADA just says root canals are safe, implants are safe, bridges are safe. There is no study or research. If such a study is done,there would be startling observations - I can assure you this for sure.

Another reason - if the root canal dangers are exposed by any study and they have to be banned, there may be lawsuits running into billions of dollars. So they say lets continue with what exists.

Dr Mercola says ROOT CANALS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC. Hal Huggins says IF ROOT CANALS ARE DEADLY,IMPLANTS ARE A THOUSAND TIMES DEADLY.

Here is a link about Dr Huggins - http://www.rense.com/general96/legend.html

If somebody tries to expose the dangers of the dental procedures, his license is revoked and he is ostracized,vilified. This is like a deterrent to others who might want to do something similar or speak about it.

Take the case of mercury fillings. They have been in use for over 150 years. I can just imagine how many millions or even billions of lives must have been ruined by this neurotoxin . It is million times more toxic than Botulism and it is the most harmful known non radioactive neurotoxin. I dont know
if they have been banned in the USA. In India, millions of mercury fillings are done daily even now. It is not banned here because they are following the ADA blindly. People here are not even aware it is toxic. They think it is safe because the dentist (whom they consider an authority) is doing it.

Root canals are not a solution. They are actually a much bigger problem than what they have been used for - to save the tooth. If only the ADA could understand this.

With two root canals,I have experienced a very bad phase in my life. I have read people having had as many as eleven to fifteen root canals. It is not rolling the dice or taking chances, it is nothing less than an UNINTENTIONAL suicide. A person with eleven root canals will have all his organs damaged within no time. He is almost certain to have debilitating serious life long diseases.

I know this is a never ending discussion and nothing will come out of this.

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I'm not saying the conservative ADA view is 100% correct. Certainly not.

I'm quite sceptical overall of the old school medical standard of care and the slow movement of many MDs to accept new alternative & complimentary care.

Mostly here I have an issue with a blanket statement that "every RC is infected".
Or perhaps they are , but not everyone has problems from it.



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Amit, Do you know what was used in your root canals? there is known scientific research about certain endodontic preparations.....


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