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Cleo 09-24-2015 12:31 AM

Just like the FDA...The American Dental Association also promotes amalgam as safe and effective treatment. People should be more concerned about the toxic effects of formaldehyde used in root canals. which is listed on FDA and ADA as toxic. 100 TIMES worse than amalgam or IGC "accident".

amitsa 09-24-2015 10:04 AM

Cleo and Bryanna,


Not just the formaldehyde ,the root canal procedure itself is faulty.

I have had serious problems with root canals. I have written about them in my previous posts. I have had periapical abscess in both the root canals I have had in the past. I have no words to describe the horrendous pain on the left side of my face due to the abscess in both the cases. Antibiotics are NOT THE SOLUTION.


Most people whom I spoke with told me 'My root canal does not pain.It is fine with me.You may have had a problem '. They are foolish. There is nothing like a 'SUCCESSFUL ROOT CANAL' for the simple reason that 'ALL ROOT CANALS ARE INFECTED' . If you extract a root canaled tooth of a person who has no pain and send it to the laboratory,you will find all sorts of lethal bacteria,virus,even fungi inside it. So how is it successful ?

All dental pioneers like Weston Price, George Meinig,Hal Huggins and also Robert Kulacz (I suppose Bryanna worked with him if I am not wrong) have time and again warned about the serious and life threatening diseases root canals can cause. Root canals have serious debilitating effects on your entire body leading to chronic diseases. ADA knows all this.

Foolish people say root canals are a succesful procedure.Root canals are being promoted and retained because they are LUCRATIVE for the dentists. Irrespective of whether RC is done under a microscope or naked eye,irrespective of whether you disinfect ,irrigate using EDTA or sodium hypochlorite or anything a 1000 times,no matter how hard you try

RC is always a failure because a RC IS ALWAYS INFECTED.

Bryanna 09-24-2015 10:31 AM

Cleo,

The ADA has a financial investment in the manufacture, marketing and distribution of amalgam filling material so of course they are going to promote it.

Formaldehyde is a huge toxic concern as it is not only used in dentistry but it is found in various places such as food, vaccines and the environment. Mercury is just as huge of a concern and for all of the same reasons.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1175560-overview
http://www.epa.gov/mercury/effects.htm

Bryanna






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Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 1173152)
Just like the FDA...The American Dental Association also promotes amalgam as safe and effective treatment. People should be more concerned about the toxic effects of formaldehyde used in root canals. which is listed on FDA and ADA as toxic. 100 TIMES worse than amalgam or IGC "accident".


Cleo 09-28-2015 05:00 PM

Bryanna, I don't see how a non profit organization made up of voluntary members can have any kind of ownership in a material at all especially without something like a patent.

Amit, It is considered malpractice for any dentist to extract an asymptomatic root canaled tooth. You never mentioned the condition of your brothers extracted tooth?

Bryanna 09-28-2015 06:21 PM

Cleo,

The ADA is a private protection organization. It controls, in various ways, over 70% of the dentist population. People who are not privy to the internal workings of such an organization are uninformed about their involvement in various financial affairs.

If you are interested.... click on this link and scroll down to page 15, which is 182 of the actual legal document.

http://engagedscholarship.csuohio.ed...85&context=jlh

Amit's brother had an infected NON root canaled tooth. The tooth had deep decay underneath a broken filling. When the dentist removed the decay, the pulp was exposed. His options were to do a root canal or extract the tooth. As I have explained previously, tooth decay is a bacterial infection. Deep tooth decay will negatively affect not just the nerves inside of the tooth, but also the dental nerves that it is connected to outside of the tooth including the alveolar nerves and beyond.

Most dentists do not show the patient their extracted infected tooth. Why? Because it's ugly, it has a pungent odor and it can be alarming. Most people would have no clue what they were looking at anyway. So what would be the purpose of doing that unless someone specifically asked to see it?

Bryanna




QUOTE=Cleo;1174134]Bryanna, I don't see how a non profit organization made up of voluntary members can have any kind of ownership in a material at all especially without something like a patent.

Amit, It is considered malpractice for any dentist to extract an asymptomatic root canaled tooth. You never mentioned the condition of your brothers extracted tooth?[/QUOTE]

amitsa 09-30-2015 09:54 AM

Bryanna,

I have one question though it is not related to dentistry directly.

My brother did see a nutritionist . She has advised Herbalife products in addition to exercise to lose weight.

My brother was talking of some Shakes and protein powder.

My question is - Is Herbalife safe ? Do you have any idea ? It is a US company.

Regards,
Amit.

amitsa 09-30-2015 11:25 AM

Cleo,

I agree it is malpractice to extract an asymptomatic root canaled tooth. What I meant to say is if you were to extract an asymptomatic RC tooth and send to a lab,you would find it infected always.

This experiment has been done before by Weston Price over a century ago and by Hal Huggins some years before. In Weston Price's case ,I suppose somewhere around 97% were found infected. In Hal Huggin's case,all of them were infected - All of them. The teeth contained bacteria,virus and even fungi. If this is the case,how come root canal is a valid procedure ?

Some people develop abscess very early may be within a few months or say 2-3 years .As per Price,this is a good sign and not a bad indication. He said if an abscess develops too early,it is an indication that the body has launched a huge fight .He found the abscess to be sterile .It was supposed to be body's way of isolating the source of the infection (the RC tooth ).

Is it correct to carry these microbes in ur mouth and that too in a place where the blood supply has been removed and immune system does not reach ? Thats why in my opinion, it is a faulty procedure.


Regards,
Amit.

Bryanna 09-30-2015 11:28 AM

Amit,

First I want to ask you..... how is your brother doing? Has the pain subsided?

The Herbalife company has an impressive board of advisers. However, I am not a fan of Herbalife products because their ingredients are derived from synthetic sources rather than whole foods, they add lots of fillers which diminish whatever little purity content there is in them and they add fructose and other sugars to make their products sweet and addictive. Also, the majority of their products are soy based. Ninety nine percent of soy is genetically modified and highly contaminated with pesticides. So no, I would not personally recommend these products for anyone who is trying to get healthy.

Someone well informed about nutrition would not likely recommend products like Herbalife because they know the difference between poor and superior quality. They also appreciate the importance of consuming fresh whole food sources (preferably organic and non gmo) over processed products like Herbalife.

What exactly is this persons nutrition back ground? Is she a Registered Dietician? Many RD's, those who have not sought specific education is actual nutrition, are conventional minded and often promote processed foods. Or is her business just a herbalife distributor with no formal education in nutrition?

Bryanna



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Originally Posted by amitsa (Post 1174554)
Bryanna,

I have one question though it is not related to dentistry directly.

My brother did see a nutritionist . She has advised Herbalife products in addition to exercise to lose weight.

My brother was talking of some Shakes and protein powder.

My question is - Is Herbalife safe ? Do you have any idea ? It is a US company.

Regards,
Amit.


amitsa 10-01-2015 12:34 AM

Hi Bryanna,

My brother's Vitamin D levels are low. His reading is 20 ng /ml which is insufficient.

Sufficient levels are 30-100. Doctor has advised him 60000 IU once a week for 6 weeks. Above 100 is toxic level which is dangerous because it is a fat soluble vitamin.

His magnesium levels are also low.

He always says that his pain is subsiding surely but slowly.
Vitamin B and C supplements help him.

About the nutritionist, She is actually a Herbalife distributor I suppose (claims to be a nutritionist).

They only market Herbalife products for weight loss.

In India, Herbalife has a huge market ,particularly for those who want to lose weight after all other methods like gym and cardio workouts have failed to show any results.

Amit.

amitsa 10-05-2015 12:19 AM

Vowel Lady,

My brother saw his neurologist again whom he had seen before. He is a famous person here ,educated in the US and England. He said nerve regeneration is one of the MOST DIFFICULT things to happen EVEN in healthy individuals. It is next to impossible if the nerve is damaged beyond repair.He said the body does try to regenerate but not successfully always or sometimes partially.

He said nerve has two parts - one outer covering called the myelin sheath and inner one called axon. He said myelin damage is easier to regenerate but if there is internal axonal damage, regeneration is almost impossible in most cases. Even medical science does not know the reason why.

As you said,he also added if the pain is unbearable,he may have to take medications to lessen the pain which can be decided only by trying different meds. He said there have been cases where nerve damage has taken as many as 30 years to correct and repair. In some cases the nerve pain has even persisted for a lifeime.


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