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Hi Jennifer,
Thanks for the detailed reply. I think his ongoing dental issue is intricately connected to his systemic health. How many doctors/practitioners is he seeing? Are some conventional and some integrative? Are any of them collaborating with each other about his case or is he seeing them independently with no collaboration? Is the dentist a general dentist ... and is he biological, holistic, conventional?? Are you familiar with Functional Medicine and how different that type of health care compared to conventional healthcare? The dental aspect: Did he have or does he have: *Other root canaled teeth? This would affest his adrenal and gut health. *Periodontal disease? This too affects adrenal and gut health. *Mercury dental fillings, now or when he was younger? Again adrenals and gut. *Did he have mercury fillings removed without the proper safety removal protocol? *Placing the bone graft into an infected jaw bone can result in surgical complications and poor post operative prognosis. When the graft is placed too soon into infected bone, the body looks for ways to reject the graft which often results in a bursting of the inflamed tissue to encourage infectious bacteria to pour out. A fistula forms for the same reason and this is another way for the body to forcefully drain the infectious bacteria. *When the dentist extracted the tooth, did he at that time take specimens to ....send to an oral pathologist... for a comprehensive microbiological diagnosis and culture sensitivity? That specimen usually includes a piece of the extracted tooth, the bone and infected tissue. That was the ideal time to do that and sending it to an oral pathologist was imperative. Doing an in house culture is not adequate in these types of cases. Cubicin is Daptomycin and it is fairly common to be given intravenously for bone infections, like osteomyelitis. So it sounds like the physician was suspecting he has osteomyeltitis. Why his dentist and oral surgeon are not, baffles me. Of course then the augmentin.... ugh... was bound to cause holy havoc on his already compromised digestive system. This is like putting gas on a burning fire! :/ Here's one common problem in dentistry and antibiotic therapy in cases of jaw bone infection. When the microbiology of the infection is not clearly known, any antibiotic that is prescribed is going to be nothing more than a crap shoot. It is never wise to do that because the infection will linger and the patient can end up so ill. Given the fact that he's already had 2 round of antibiotics.... taking specimens during that time and even for a time after taking them, the microbiology may be skewed affecting the actual bacterial diagnosis. However, I would bring up this testing to the oral surgeon or the dentist that did the extractions. I can also tell you.... it is not unusual for an oral surgeon to be hesitant to intervene too greatly on a patient's care pertaining to oral surgery done by another dentist. They don't want to be blamed for anything that might occur while under their care, that could be due to the original surgery. To sum up the dental .... Without any doubt, he had a 10+ year infection in that molar via the findings of the severe bone deterioration and also because ALL root canaled teeth are a source of infectious bacteria. This type of infection is very progressive and not self limiting to just the tooth, thus the findings of bone deterioration. Given those facts and his long term poor digestive health, the likelihood of the sinus being affected and infected would not be uncommon. It is also not uncommon for cases like this to find a bone infection known as osteomyeltitis (infection and inflammation of the bone) and/or NICO (Neuralgia-Inducing Cavitational Osteonecrosis). Both of which are commonly associated with infected teeth, root canaled teeth, people with poor immune health, and people who take steroids and/or bisphosphonate drugs. The usual bacteria that is often, but not always found with that infection is in the Staphylococcus bacteria family. This is why it is imperative for the "specimens" to be sent out to an oral pathologist for the most comprehensive microbiology testing and culture. The Medical aspect.... His systemic problems are widespread but all health problems have some, usually more than some, gut health component to them. So that area needs to be focused on. Functional Medicine is different than conventional medicine as it seeks to find the root causes of disease... and gut health is thought to be at the root cause of most, if not all illnesses because that is primarily where our immune system resides. His overproduction of mucus.... The formation of mucus is a bodily function that occurs in an attempt to protect against infectious pathogens like bacteria, viruses and fungi. When mucus is in abundance and on a daily basis, other than just with an acute illness like a cold or upper respiratory infection, that is a pretty clear indication that the body is overwhelmed with unfriendly pathogens. In his case, the ongoing mucus problem may be directly correlated with his gut dybiosis. Many people think mucus is just a sinus issue ... but it is so much more involved than that. His gut health needs to be diagnosed and treated properly in order for his immune system to be able to deal with anything else. Re the ozone ear insufflation and IV vitamin C therapy... I'm not very familiar with the ear insufflation ... however, I think in his case it may just be a band-ade if anything because the problems with his infection are likely in his jaw bone and possibly sinus. Ozone injections can be very therapeutic but again, may not be appropriate in this case, at this time. IV Vitamin C therapy can be very beneficial. But again because it doesn't sound like his dental problem or medical issues have been fully disclosed yet .... the C may not be very beneficial for the long term. I've thrown a lot at you, Jennifer. I hope you will read it through and make notes of what you think could pertain to your husband. Then speak to the dentist and/or oral surgeon about the oral pathology and microbiology testing. If you haven't already, look into Functional Medicine.org and see if you can locate a practitioner to consult with for his systemic health issues. Bryanna Quote:
****I hope I've answered all your questions and thank you thank you for your help. Let me know if I've left anything out or not been clear. Jennifer[/QUOTE]
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Bryanna ***I have been in the dental profession for 4 decades. I am an educator and Certified Dental Assistant extensively experienced in chair side assisting and dental radiography. The information that I provide here is my opinion based on my education and professional experience. It is not meant to be taken as medical advice.*** |
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Hi Bryanna. My husband got his dental DNA results back. Is this alarming?
admin edit: **see PM please** He is seeing both integrative and functional medicine doctors. They really believe the mercury toxicity is at the core of his problems. Related to the surgery, he did not have a bone graft at the time of the root canal extraction, but the tissue was places and sewn in to create a new sinus membrane. He is currently on fluconazole orally and a compounded nasal spray of an anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and bio film breaking agent to deal with the believed fungal infection in his sinus. The culture did not grow anything but the doctor was not surprised because it's hard to culture fungus. The extraction site still has not healed and he produces a ton of mucus from the infections. It seems to be getting better very slowly and less white fluid seeps from the surgical site... Last edited by Chemar; 04-26-2017 at 03:22 PM. Reason: Privacy |
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Hello
I did send you a PM yesterday re the PDF attachment you included on your post above, as it had personal info., and as this is a open read forum, you might want to resubmit it with that info blanked out. Thank you
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Jennifer,
I did not receive a PM from you. Perhaps you can try to send it again? Heavy metal toxicity is HUGE problem which can prevent or delay the healing of any injury or serious infection. The toxicity can also be very difficult to treat and completely eradicate. Especially when the persons health is already compromised. If you can, try to send me the report again via PM. Thanks Bryanna Quote:
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Bryanna ***I have been in the dental profession for 4 decades. I am an educator and Certified Dental Assistant extensively experienced in chair side assisting and dental radiography. The information that I provide here is my opinion based on my education and professional experience. It is not meant to be taken as medical advice.*** |
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It took me a couple days to have time to figure out how to keep the file size small enough to upload. I am not able to PM yet, Bryanna.
My husband's electrosensitivity is also very bad right now, which seems to correlate to the infection "load". It seems when the mercury or infections are high, he is much more sensitive. It had gotten better in January when he started chelating the mercury but after the root canal removal it's been very day. Thanks again for your help. Jennifer |
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Bryanna, did you get the Dental DNA results I posted? My husband talked to the dentist yesterday and he said he's never seen one with all the bars in the red...but did not offer any remedies for his non-healing gum/surgical site or ongoing sinus infections.
Jennifer |
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