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Old 10-18-2015, 01:04 AM #21
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Thanks for the great summary Vowel Lady .

"Also about "excitotoxins" like glutamine*, MSG and Asparatame"

Excitotoxins are compounds (usually amino acids) which over-activate neurotransmitter receptors - this can have a number of adverse effects.

Glutamine is not an excitotoxin but glutamate is, when present at abnormally high levels; (it acts on the glutamate neurotransmitter receptor). MSG is just glutamate by another name. I can't find any evidence that aspartame is an excitotoxin.

A general question; did the show report independent corroboration (eg, from an oncologist) that the women with ovarian cancer and brain cancer were cured?
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No real corroboration that the two women were cured.

However, the woman with brain cancer was sick 18 years ago. The letter from her oncologist giving up on her was dated at the time. It was read aloud. He stated that her chemo had failed and that her cancer had progressed during treatment and that he had nothing else to offer. It was not read by her, it was read by the narrator. You can see him reading it.

I'm not sure, but I think he (the doctor) was suggesting Hospice.

Again, 18 years ago.

The woman was energetic and robust. No real evidence, but she looked good.
The woman who said she had stage four ovarian cancer was also energetic and robust...don't recall how many years ago she said she was sick. Don't think actual evidence was provided that she was sick or cured.

I guess, in retrospect, the woman who said she had a brain tumor 18 years ago provided more evidence. I personally think it is amazing she could be doing so well with only two chemo sessions, etc. all these years later. Seems some intervention was absolutely necessary and she is saying it was homeopathic medicine. She said she did go back to her oncologist who she says admitted she was cured and was uncomfortable. Also that he said that perhaps she had a delayed reaction to the chemo.

The creator of the series doesn't have a scientific background. It would have been great if he thought to provide the corroboration.

There is a book written by Kelly Turner, PhD called "Radical Remission" that speaks of people experiencing cancer remissions from natural means or inexplicably. For the most part, she does provide this corroboration. The caption on the book jacket reads "Filled with hope, science and possibilities."

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There is a lot of information kept from the public that has been around for many years. DMSO for one. I belong to a support group specifically for DMSO and use it probably daily in small amounts for OA and working with it now for a tooth issue. I mix it in some of my topical joint products.

Here is some history on DMSO. I've been working and "thinking" outside the box for over 25 yrs. Do your own research and again I'm the messenger, but I don't talk about something I don't use or plan to use.

I've also been using MSM for pain reduction for a lot of years. These two are related.

http://www.apricotsfromgod.info/natureshealer.htm
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I would be very cautious about self-medication with DMSO.

I use it routinely in my day job but always wear gloves when I am handling it.

In Australia it is on the Schedule 4 list of drugs and poisons. That means that it is only available by prescription from a registered health professional after due consideration of its potential risks and benefits.
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Kiwi, I believe you warned me about DMSO before, and thanks for that, but I've been using it for years medicinally and right now mixing it with collodial silver and clove oil for this dental issue and haven't had any pain for over 5 hrs. Time will tell. I've met too many who use DMSO medicinally. But thanks again. C
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For anyone curious about DMSO , here are some links to explore-
https://www.google.com/search?q=DMSO&gws_rd=ssl
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I don't know a thing about DMSO, but might very well look it up out of curiosity. And, I took out my "Radical remission" book to re-read.

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I personally love the idea about the "Nocebo," basically the opposite of the Placebo. I have one doc, the one I'm phasing out , who often made me feel like I was a sick, weak, helpless individual. And, another who I fired who repeatedly sent me to the ER for little things. I guess all my autoimmune things ticked him off or scared him.

The documentary spoke about how a doctor's demeanor and attitude often influences a patient's outcome since they are the authority figure. And we know for the a placebo effect that this can be powerful. So, a physician needs to keep negativity or fear in check.

Related: More about how what you think and feel does matter in terms of a medical outcome.

Lots of things most of us have already heard, but appreciate the reminders. The importance of healthy foods, sleep, clean water, exercise etc.

Also, how certain foods might help certain organs. Examples: beets and the liver. Parsley and asparagus for the urinary tract.

Discussion on using Cordycep mushrooms either during or after chemo as some sort of cleanse or immune enhancing process.

A doctor Buttar was featured. He wrote a book called " 9 Steps to Keep the Doctor Away," one of his cancer patients gave her testimony. She had cancer and was treated with chemo. It came back. Doctors wanted to give her a very high dose of chemo. She refused. She was trying alternative treatments. Current tests indicate much improvement. Normal bloodwork, etc. Awaiting more testing. Happy and healthy looking. No corroboration was given.
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I was an analytical chemist for over 13 years before I started my latest job. I've worked with DMSO for a long time. I know many people on this message board use DMSO and it effectively helps with their symptoms. And if it works for you, then you should keep doing what you are doing.

However, if there are people reading this message chain who are thinking about using this, they should understand the DMSO is a very powerful solvent and is a carrier that penetrates barriers. It will take any other substances that are on your skin and carry them directly into your bloodstream. You are also pulling impurities that are in the DMSO into your bloodstream as well, so you should really research the vendor thoroughly. Ask for a certificate of analysis.

At my last job, I would use DMSO when I wanted to clean out analytical instruments. And I had to be very careful, because it also destroyed some of our equipment. So just read up on it first and handle it with care.
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I have posted this link on the Arthritis area and thought I'd list it here too. I just talked to a woman on another forum on their arthritis section and she mentioned DMSO use and PRP and Prolo work too.

Keeping an open mind as I always do.

http://www.nwhealthsolutions.com/art...nMSM-DMSO.html
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Kiwi, thank you for reminding me to put a scientific thinking cap on. Now, I'm watching with the word "corroboration" blaring in the background. I mean this in a good way . It does sadden me a little that the narrator doesn't have a scientific background, but a good journalist can ask the right questions, interview the right experts, interview a variety of experts, and show the right documentation. One of my degrees is in this arena...but good journalism is for the most part, a thing of the past...I will spare you the rant.

There was one item that really stuck out for me in this episode...see toward the bottom.

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*Very generally...
Use of the Budwig Protocol which involves flaxseed oil mixed with cottage cheese
Use of oxygen in various forms ...makes it harder for cancer to grow
Use of ultraviolet light...seemed to be attached to an IV...helps to kills viruses, infections and fungus
Drink pure water, studies of MRET water ( Molecular Resonance Effect Technology)
Avoid dehydration
Wheatgrass is helpful...hydrating, vitamins, etc.

*Macrophages, Nagalase, gc Mac. Oh my!
Interesting (to me at least) was discussion by Dr. Conheally (unsure of spelling) Integrative medicine. I've heard her speak before.
Didn't totally understand everything she said. We have Macrophages, which are like "PAC men" that eat cancer causing viruses and other bad invaders to the body. When we have viruses or other invaders that tax / burden our body, we have less protection when it comes to cancer. Help...kiwi and other scientific types. Something about Nagalase and how it causes immunodeficiency.

I found this link that actually explained what she said very well. Super duper generally, she was saying that too many viruses leaves us vulnerable to cancer. Burdens the body. A company in the Netherlands identified this missing element that allowed us to replace what we need. They were replacing the missing element (?) She was getting this (gc maf?) for her patients. However, recently and without explanation, this company was raided and closed down.

I'm a layperson, but it sounded very logical, interesting and promising. No explanation seemed to be provided why this company was closed down and if their work will continue.

This link explained everything she said...maybe not the part of not being able to get gc Mac anymore.

http://gcmaf.timsmithmd.com/book/chapter/52/

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