Boy, that is the one thing I am so sure of after the last two years: "There is a very fine line between beneficial exercise and causing damage, so you have to listen carefully to your body.

Moose posted a dynamite article along those lines. I used to go back and read it, but then when I was banned I couldn't even see the forums for awhile, then I got a new computer, but... etc.

For me, I make myself rest for weeks. Weeks. not hours.

I'm in bed most of the time. And when I start getting up, if I go soooo slow, just a little walking in my garden... then I get better day by day.

But if something stressful happens, like you getting the bill you didn't expect, then I can suddenly be just as bad as I was before I made myself rest for a week.

I got a ... massage chair, it massages. It is very helpful. More than I would have expected. So that was helping me learn to relax my muscles. But then I got this horrid leak in the bathroom next to the room with the massage chair and I could not get they guy whom I'd just paid to fix it to come back, and every time I used the chair the sound of the dripping made my muscles more tight than the chair was able to handle. and then there was major damp all the way into the kitchen from it... and mold.

so... it's never easy.

And now I have the leak fixed, but it was there so long that going in to use the massage chair makes me feel very anxious, as if the leak were still there.

Irritating.

Disability is NO fun. I sure agree on that.

I had back surgery back in the 80's for a ruptured disc and unstable spine. They fused it, etc. When I used to use a back brace often, I'd have to take it off by 2 weeks or my back would start weakening. Rest is great, but I only rest when there's no more get up and go left. What ticks me off is it takes very little to push me over that line.

water leaks are scary! In this old house we've done some remodeling and I'll have nightmares if I allow myself to think about what we found in the walls. Icky, old looking wood and framing like a mile apart! I keep thinking the whole house is going to fall down.

stress with any disease is frosting on the cake that we don't need.

Just for the fun of it try resting whole days, and then see if you feel better the day after the extra rest.

I wish Moose would post the rest article again.

((((((((dorry))))))))

Lately I will veg most of the day stretched out on the bed. Maybe 2 days tops. I feel better with the rest, but then activity wipes the energy again. So I sit alot or we have a reclining couch so I keep my feet up.

The most good days I can get in a row are 2.

Hi Dorry,
I think that to get three good days you'd have to rest three full days or more, and not deplete all the rest before you rested again.

Would you do me a HUGE favor? Please? and post asking someone to please post the information that Moose posted on BT about the red balls and rest, or something like that...

It's going to look too weird if I post another, "Please will someone help me"

but you could....

what?!! I'll sound liek a bigger idjiot asking about mooses red balls post!! haha. Someone will ask me a question and I'll be like, "duh"

YOU ask it! There's no limit on the amount of questions you can ask. Besides, ppl are bitching that nobody is talking on the health forums

lol get US started and we yak it up for the rest of them.

Sure, but you're in a thread I started...

PLEASE ask... please please please...

I'll jump right in and say I know what you are talking about...

PLEASE?????

i'll ask if dorry won't. i'm not shy.

Oh, how funny. I completely forgot that a lot of people can see what I wrote. I was thinking about dorry and thinking of her, only her reading it. shaking my head, here.

Do you have a smilie that's shaking it's head?

I just gave up and posted it. but it is a very lame question.

i thought your title should have been:

moose and her red balls?