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Old 10-13-2010, 06:30 AM #81
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Default I do wonder--

--if there are other factors involved, particularly gluten sensitivity (it's interesting that your symptoms idsappeared on Atkins, which wouldn't allow for gluten-containing foods) . . .
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:49 PM #82
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Default amount of nickel in standardized portions

I found a really helpful list in the book “Juicing, Fasting, and Detoxing for Life” by Cherie Calbom where they listed the nickel and standardized the portion sizes based on fda testing:

Micrograms (Mcg) Nickel per 100 grams edible portion (100 grams = 3 1/2 ounces)

700 Soybeans, dry; 500 beans, dry; 410 Soy flour; 310 Lentils; 250 Split Peas; 175 Green Beans; 150 Oats; 132 Walnuts; 122 Hazelnuts; 100 Buckwheat; 90 Barley; 90 Corn; 90 Parsley;

36 Whole wheat; 35 Spinach; 30 Fish; 27 Cucumber; 25 Carrots; 25 Rye Bread; 24 Eggs; 22 Cabbage; 20 Onions; 20 Tomatoes; 16 Apricots; 16 Beef; 16 Oranges; 16 Potatoes; 15 Cheese; 15 Watermelon; 14 Lettuce; 13 Apples; 12 Whole Wheat Bread; 12 Beets; 12 Pears; 8 Grapes; 6 Lamb; 6 Pine Nuts; 6 Radishes; 3 Milk
For anyone new-Chocolate is also extremely high in nickel. (Sorry)

Some of the foods listed as high in nickel on some web sites like salmon tested with no nickel on the fda website.
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Fish Slayer - In 2007, the "US Food and Drug Administration" created a "Total Diet Study" which lists the average mg/kg for various elements, including "Nickel", for a variety of foods tested. I can't post the link because I'm a new user, but if you search on those key words plus "Summary of Results" you should get it. The last column lists the average.

While this is not comprehensive, it provides more data than just a list, and has lower level information for those who are more sensitive. Of course, any food listed that has multiple ingredients will likely have different mg/kg depending on how it's made, but at least it's a ballpark.

Looking at this list, Nickel content in iceberg lettuce is a medium level. Since Ni concentration in foods will vary depending on the Ni concentration in the soil where the food was grown, possibly the USFDA list will be more representative for food bought in the US than the Danish list. I hope this helps!
Harmony, Thanks a lot for the link.

It has been a while since I last checked in on this thread, I thought that it was so old that it was probably pretty dead, but there has been a lot of good info posted since I last checked, this reference included.

Something that I took from it was the large variation in prepared foods like French fries or chicken sandwiches. I think it is probably due to the other ingredients (fried foods cooked in corn oil verses peanut oil will have a huge difference in nickel content) and even cooking utensils, stainless vs cast iron, etc. I would like to have seen more base foods on the list, but this is a great resource. I suppose most people eat out a good deal, so testing prepared foods and fast foods makes sense, then again this group is not most people and I think this group as a whole is probable resigned to eating at home most of the time.

Thanks again Harmony.
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:29 AM #84
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Thank you for this community. My daughter first reacted to nickel when she was a baby from the snaps of her onsies. She is now 11, and I have let so much damage go on. She is obese, rash from head to toe, severe scars from rash near the rivots in her jeans, eczema, swollen lips, and just looks like she is retaining water. I have done everything you can think of to eliminate the contact. It has just really hit me. I make her eat nickel in high doses every day by giving her a granola bar, eating nuts for snacks, can vegetables and soups, salads, wheat bread. I could go on,... Pretty much everything on the lists. I want to cry. I have been doing everything wrong. Trying to make her eat better has only forced more nickel into her diet. I could go on and on about her symptoms and reactions and such. She is very active in sports, but is very exhausted other times. Looking back she has always experienced a lot of upset tummys and vomitting. I have wanted to help her eat right for her weight and health, and I am practically poisoning her. She has dermatologist and Peditrician. But its down to the diet and more strict no contact to nickel. I wondered if the Atkins diet would be a plan and an idea for a day to day following. I do not want to give up. I want her to feel better. Gosh the school lunches probably serve their vegetable and other things out of cans, the water fountain, WOW!!!!
I was doing a similar thing to myself, trying to lower cholesterol by eating whole grains, nuts etc. Chocolate was one of my favorite indulgences….
I don’t think any particular weight loss diet is going to be well suited. You might be better off going old school, and using common sense. Stick within the known safe foods for now. Try preparing foods yourself instead of store bought. Fresh fruits instead of canned etc. Try to avoid canned foods, especially acidic ones. Doing that alone should also help with weight control. Try not to use stainless steel cookware especially if you are cooking acidic foods. I try to use cast iron whenever possible, as some of the non stick pans use a nickel plating under the non stick surface.

After your daughter is feeling better, try to introduce some “unknown” foods, ones that are not on the list of high or low nickel foods, as the lists I have found are far from complete and a bit contradictory.
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:43 AM #85
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Hi there,
I feel so much better now that i've found this site!
I've been allergic to Nickel for over a year now, most of that time was spent trying to find out what this misterious rash was!
I've been to the doctors and dermatologists time after time only to walk out in fits of tears and a perscription for anti-hystomines(?)
Ive now been told im immune to anytype of anti-hystomines and awaiting yet another dermatologist appointment.

I was put on steriod tablets for a while, this may be helpfull to some. It helped start to clear the painfull rash, but i became severly depressed on them and was advised by my doctor to stop the tablets.

I feel kind of thrown into the deep end at this stage. Being told you have a nickel allergy and then your left to just deal and figure out for yourself how to cope!

But how?!! How can you avoid contact with nickel?! its in almost EVERYTHING!
Simple tasks such as opening my bedroom door, or flushing the toilet, washing your hands. These tasks cannot be completed without touching nickel! As far as i know!

I have not tryed the nickel free diet yet, but i would like to know if anyone could reccomend any sites that explain this diet. Part of my reaction is on the corner of my lip and sometimes i can't even open my mouth in order to eat as the skin cracks deeply. Possibly a nickle-free diet could be the awnser?

I wondered if anyone knew any razors i could use for shaving that do not contain nickel?

Also does glitter contain nickel?

Can i get a peircing and what jewelry can i wear?
I used to have 7 ear peircings, but upon finding out about the allergy i have removed the earings and they have sadly closed up. sadface.

Can i have a tattoo safely?

I know some of my questions may sound stupid, but i just don't know what to do anymore. There's no way of figuring out if an item in question contains nickel as it doesn't come with a list of ingredients/componants like food does.
Ive looked everywhere and i've had no luck so far.

I also read a few months ago that a nickel allergy can be classed as a long term disability depending on the severity, does anyone know how true this is?

Id love to hear back from anyone,
thanks a bunchhh! =]

xx
As far as shaving goes, how sensitive are you? Most of the modern razors are mostly plastic with only the blades being stainless.

You could go old school, buying a double edged safety razor. Most of these are also plated, but you might be able to find some without nickel. Some of the antique ones are gold plated, but might have a nickel layer under the gold and lacquer. Some appear to be brass, or maybe have had all of the plating worn off. There are a couple DE of razors that are made of plastic both antique and current production. As for blades, there are a couple of manufacturers still using non stainless “blue steel”.
If you research this type of razor, you will also see there is a wide variety of shaving soaps and creams that do not come in a can. Most are intended to be used with an old school brush, but most feel the lather is far superior to anything in a can. You will most certainly be able to find something that will not irritate your skin.

Google "Badger and Blade" for a site with more than you ever wanted to know about old school shaving.
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Hi there..... it me the originator of this thread and I am here today to warn others of the risk of working in the yard (soil) with out gloves on when you are allergic to Nickle... sadly I found this out the hard way.

My family and I had just recently moved into a new house on Nov 1st when about three weeks into living there my husband and I decided to do some yard work... a lot of weeding was needing to be done by hand and I could not find locate my garden gloves (prob not unpacked yet) so I preceded to pull up the weeds with my bare exposed hands..... BIG MISTAKE!!

My hands were very dirty by the time I finished pulling weeds for two hours and the rich fresh soil was all around my nails and cuticles. I cleaned up and went about my way for day and when I woke up the next morning my finger tips were sore and by mid day many of my fingers tips has become red and swollen..... by the time the second day had rolled around several of fingers tips has become infected around the nail area.

I had to have several of the nail areas lanced, cleaned out with an anti-bacterial flush (wont talk about what came out) and I was put on antibiotics to help with the long healing process..... this is the day I found out from my doctor that the infection was due to the Nickle that had made its way into my body via one of its natural sources "the dirt/soil" - - - -

What can I say, but no more bare hands when gardening.
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Default Stone ground wheat flour

Does anyone have experience with stone grinding wheat? Our allergy dr mentioned that nickel in wheat flour is from the grinding process. I did some research and there is stone ground wheat flour. I'm wondering if that would be nickel free (or at least lower). My son was recently diagnosed with a nickel allergy and we are trying to reduce the nickel in his diet. But it is hard not to make it seem like a punishment. No pizza, bread, etc... Not something a 4 year old can wrap his head around.
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Does anyone have experience with stone grinding wheat? Our allergy dr mentioned that nickel in wheat flour is from the grinding process. I did some research and there is stone ground wheat flour. I'm wondering if that would be nickel free (or at least lower). My son was recently diagnosed with a nickel allergy and we are trying to reduce the nickel in his diet. But it is hard not to make it seem like a punishment. No pizza, bread, etc... Not something a 4 year old can wrap his head around.
Everyone seems to have different sensitivity so my experience may be different from yours. I have been trying to avoid foods with nickel for about 2 years now. I try to use common lists on foods to avoid and have challenged some foods that I just do not want to give up. Most of the time I find that I loose the challenge. What I am trying to imply is that I can tell when I eat a food that is high in nickel, at least in my own sensitivity range.
In regards to wheat, the information that I read states that whole wheat (and whole grains in general) are high in nickel, but processed (white) wheat is OK. That would imply that there is a higher concentration of nickel in the husks or germ of many grains (my own assumption). I do not limit white flour (pizza crust and white bread included) in my own diet and have not found an issue. I have not thought about the mill and getting nickel from stainless steel parts. I would think that stainless steel would be a poor material for the part of the mill that would actually grind the grain. I would suspect that an industrial mill would have something harder for the grinding teeth, tungsten carbide or a minimum of hardened steel (which would not contain large amount of nickel). The “stone ground” label on the flour is probably more of a marketing term than anything. (Tungsten carbide is a ceramic so would you consider that a stone?).
I worry more about liquids, especially acidic ones in contact with metals. I try to avoid products packaged in metal cans, especially acidic ones like tomato sauce and have abandoned my stainless coffee mug.
I do not eat whole wheat products, but have not challenged them yet. I may as my wife is prefers whole wheat products and is pushing me to try.
I do get blindsided by things that are not listed anywhere occasionally. Beware of ginger and gingerale it took me a while to figure out that the burn in my throat that I felt when drinking gingerale was not normal…. Winter squash (pumpkins and spaghetti squash) also got me as well as pomegranates.
I hope this helps. These allergies seem to be a personal thing, my tolerance to nickel will be different than your son’s. To make things even worse, most people are allergic to more than 1 thing. I think 3 things were average for people suffering from esonophillic esophagitus (a condition caused by an allergic reaction). Myself I am also allergic to beef and some pollen that is high in late winter and early spring.
Hang in there, I do miss may foods that I can no longer eat, but after an initial drop in weight, I have found plenty of things to eat and loosing weight has not been a problem.
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hi rapsody, i am not allergic to nickel but am allergic to wheat, soya, dairy,tomatoes, celery, sticking plasters(even antiallergy ones and micropore tape) perfumes, sprays, all three types of pollen, plus many other things including some allergy tablets!
yep allergies suck!
I find avoidance is the best option but where you can't avoid then prepare for the reaction by taking an antihistamine tablet daily and keep antihistamine cream in your hand bag to use as soon as the reaction starts. I too have dermititis, i find a cortosone cream works during flare ups and to keep it at bay during periods of quiet time i use drapolene cream, ok it is designed for nappy rash but is fantastic for dermititis too!!!
most recipes can be adapted to just include foods you can eat, maybe it would help you to list the foods you are able to eat and work from that rather than the list of foods you can't as this just reminds you of what you are missing rather than introducing you to alternatives you have not tried before! some alternatives may turn out to be really good, ok some may not but that is just trial and error, you got to try it to find out!
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Default Nickel dermatitis

I was woundering dose SNUS have nickel in it. My son has a nickel allergy and he dose SNUS.
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