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Old 10-15-2006, 02:08 PM #11
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http://www.worldwidewounds.com/News/News2002.html


Antimicrobial preparations for WBP

Cadexomer iodine:
Iodine plays a natural role in the body's immune system and in fighting infection. It serves as a halide, which is needed for neutrophils to exert their action during the inflammatory phase of healing. Cadexomer iodine (cadexomer beads with 0.9% iodine, Iodoflex) is a topical preparation which helps to address all the main barriers to healing. It has a unique mode of action, described by Falanga as a SMART release system [2], whereby the cadexomer beads actively respond to exudate by releasing iodine in a controlled sustained manner, providing broad spectrum antimicrobial activity for up to three days [3]. The iodine is deactivated by organic matter in the wound, detected by the cadexomer carrier, which in turn releases more iodine. This ensures that there is always a greater concentration of iodine in the dressing than at the wound site, thereby avoiding any cellular toxicity, which has been a problem with traditional antimicrobial preparations.
It has been demonstrated, beyond reasonable doubt, that CI is non-toxic to cells both in vitro and in vivo. In a study by Zhou et al, histological assessment of chronic wound cells following CI treatment revealed no cell necrosis or morphological changes [4]. Falanga states that the propaganda of the 1980s about the toxicity of antiseptics was based on the inappropriate use of traditional antiseptic agents (e.g. povidone iodine), which release their complete load of iodine in one short action resulting in cellular toxicity [2].
Other advantages of using CI include:
  • assists in debridement and absorption of high levels of exudate (up to 6 ml/g of dressing), making it a highly versatile agent and an integral part of WBP
  • reduces problems with dressing removal - cadexomer beads are naturally derived from starch molecules which allow any remnants of the dressing to biodegrade.
Falanga states that 'Judicious use of iodine antiseptics promotes wound bed preparation and accelerates wound healing ... CI is an effective debridement and antiseptic agent for chronic exudative wounds. When used directly over the wound CI removes pus, debris and wound exudate and effectively reduces the bacterial counts' [2].
Finally, Carita Hansson has shown that if the instructions for correct use are followed, CI is an effective therapy which decreases the microbial burden, cleans the ulcer from slough and exudate and promotes healing [5].
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I posted this in the baking bread section... but thought the question should probably answered here so as not to take the bread recipe thread so far off course.

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Good on you for reducing your sodium intake if you need to also! Be aware that baking soda can adds lots of sodium also... if you're big bakers. I did some research on it a couple of years ago and ended up cutting a lot of that out too.

Lastly, watch your iodine levels. Lots of places in N.A. are known for low iodine levels in the people. This can produce fatigue. The weird thing is, they put iodine in salt... but sodium and iodine compete with eachother. From my understand, the body will take up sodium before iodine and so lots of NA people remain low... I haven't confirmed my resources yet though...

So if anyone else can explain this, I'd love to learn more.
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but sodium and iodine compete with each other.
Maybe iodine and sodium compete for the same absorption mechanisms? Like calcium and magnesium do?
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Wow, interesting stuff, guys! I think I get enough iodine in my salt and my vitamin. But I remember when I was finally diagnosed in the late 1960's with hyperactive thyroid and a goiter. I had to take iodine for about a month to get the toxins under control enough for an operation. Now that is some foul tasting stuff!! We mixed it in grapefruit juice, and even that wouldn't cut the taste.
I wonder if I would have been able to have put it on me rather than in me. It would sure have been a lot tastier!
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I feel that I need to stress a couple of things again because I think some people may have missed some posts.

1) Iodine causes cellular damage. So, if you're going to baste in order to supplement, keep that in mind. Maybe don't baste the same spot all the time? Maybe mix it with water and spray it so it's not so 'strong'? Things to consider.

2) Basting and watching the yellow fade according to time, is not seen to be an accurate way to tell if you are short on iodine. (I'm not saying it doesn't work... I'm just passing on the message and making sure people see it.)
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Well, I've been looking some more into iodine today and want to make some notes:

It does not appear that sodium and iodine compete with eachother. I don't know that for sure but I cannot find any confirming information. Therefore, do not assume that they compete or correlate like calcium and magnesium.

In the periodic table, Iodine is a halogen (column 17) and sodium is an alkali metal (column 1). Calcium and Magnesium (both column 2) are alkaline earth metals. So, you see... by the periodic table, it looks like sodium is a good way to get iodine.

It was definitely worth the question though because of the mistake they made with iron and spinach for all those years (And some people still think spinach is a good source of iron!):

http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s301760.htm

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But it's all wrong. The original German scientists way back in the 1890's did their experiment right, but they wrote the result down wrong. They put the decimal point in the wrong place. They over-estimated the amount of iron in spinach by 10 times. This error was corrected by German scientists in the 1930's, but the information did not cross the Atlantic until a long time after WW II. To get his iron, Popeye would have been better off chewing on the can.

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http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...ralprimer.html

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IODINE...Muscle cramps are a sign of deficiency as are cold hands and feet, proneness to weight gain, poor memory, constipation, depression and headaches...

...Sources include most sea foods, unrefined sea salt, kelp and other sea weeds, fish broth, butter, pineapple, artichokes, asparagus and dark green vegetables. Certain vegetables, such as cabbage and spinach, can block iodine absorption when eaten raw or unfermented...

...In excess, iodine can be toxic. Consumption of high amounts of inorganic iodine (as in iodized salt or iodine-fortified bread) as well as of organic iodine (as in kelp) can cause thyroid problems similar to those of iodine deficiency, including goiter...
Okay... so maybe iodized salt IS the second choice????.... think, think, think....

Maybe the fish broth would be another (better?) option for people who eat a high salt diet? Perhaps using fish broth in things like taco meat or spaghetti sauce, etc (rather than water).... maybe more artichokes in the spinach salad?... Instead of putting salt on pizza, make an anchovy sauce?...

I'm hungry now and have some anchovies in the fridge... going to make a pizza... see everyone later.
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I think I forgot this one:

http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele053.html

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Care should be taken in handling and using iodine. It can burn the skin and damage the eyes and mucous membranes. Pure iodine is poisonous if ingested.
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Kim,
Thank you for all the links. I only did the iodine test the one time and I promise, I am not going to do it again or use it to increase my iodine. I just wanted some more proof for the doctor to at least listen to me.

This week, not only did I find out that my son Joe's thyroid has shut down, I also found out that my dad in on thyroid meds too. Starting to sound like a family thing, huh?
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Deb,

Sorry to hear about your dad and son and the thyroid issues, and yes, it does run in families.

I don't know if you are aware that there are certain parts of the country that are more prone to thyroid problems because of the deficiency of iodine in the soils in those areas. Mostly in the Mid-west, including MI.

Dr. David Brownstein, MD who has a practice in MI, has written a couple of books that might be helpful: Overcoming Thyroid Disorders, and Iodine, Why you Need It and Why you can't live without it.

Hope that your son will be on replacement hormone (thyroid), and be feeling better in the near future.

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