[invisable]

Has anyone ever heard of internal tremor being a symptom of Lyme Disease?

I also have may abnormal neuro sensations all over my body.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thank You.

[frosty]

Originally Posted by invisable

Has anyone ever heard of internal tremor being a symptom of Lyme Disease?

I also have may abnormal neuro sensations all over my body.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thank You.

Neuro lyme can cause a whole array of symptoms - are you seeing a Lyme Literate doctor? You should join your local lyme group by state on Yahoo medical groups. Very knowledgable folks. I have neuro lyme and babasia coinfection - I go to a lyme literate doctor and she has been a miracle in testing and treatment. You can get a referal from the Lyme yahoo groop for a good doc in your area.

[rbwalton]

Invisible-

I have noticed a few of your posts. I also have a weird tremor. When it was finally noticed, it was called Essential Tremor, after doctors ruled out the more harmful things they could think of. The visible tremor is not always there, but I can feel the shaking even when no one can see. Right this second it is pretty under control, but I am not holding my breath to see if it lasts. Anyway-

You ask about Lyme disease and tremor, and I have also wondered about a relationship. What I have found is that Lyme disease can flush magnesium out of the body somehow- and the lack of magnesium can lead to tremor, and a host of other weird neurologic sensations.

From lymebook.com/lyme-disease-diet-and-supplements-vitamin-a-b-c-magnesium

“Magnesium: Both Lyme and Bartonella significantly deplete the body’s supply of magnesium. Magnesium is one of the most important mineral nutrients necessary for good health, and also one of the minerals that Americans in general are most commonly deficient in. The recommended daily intake of magnesium for healthy people is 400 mg per day, but the sad reality is that the average American gets about half that amount per day. The best nutritional sources include green foods, especially collards and chard (magnesium is to chlorophyll what iron is to hemoglobin), orange-colored foods, nuts, chocolate, figs, apricots, coconut, bran, oats, beans, and legumes.

Most widely known for its ability to support the health of the bones, heart, skeletal muscles, and teeth, magnesium also plays essential roles in the maintenance and repair of all body cells, energy production, hormone regulation, nerve transmission, and the metabolism of proteins and nucleic acids. It also helps to reverse muscular tension and is involved in the functioning of literally hundreds of the body’s enzymatic reactions. A lack of magnesium can also contribute to immune system dysfunction, depression, fatigue, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, gastrointestinal problems, irregular heartbeat, memory problems, mood swings, muscle spasms and twitching, and motor skill problems. “

Hope that helps. . . I am still trying to figure out what causes my tremor. Magnesium controlled it for a while, but it is helping less as time goes on.

Good Luck!!

Originally Posted by invisable

Has anyone ever heard of internal tremor being a symptom of Lyme Disease?

I also have may abnormal neuro sensations all over my body.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thank You.

[invisable]

Originally Posted by rbwalton

Invisible-

I have noticed a few of your posts. I also have a weird tremor. When it was finally noticed, it was called Essential Tremor, after doctors ruled out the more harmful things they could think of. The visible tremor is not always there, but I can feel the shaking even when no one can see. Right this second it is pretty under control, but I am not holding my breath to see if it lasts. Anyway-

You ask about Lyme disease and tremor, and I have also wondered about a relationship. What I have found is that Lyme disease can flush magnesium out of the body somehow- and the lack of magnesium can lead to tremor, and a host of other weird neurologic sensations.

From lymebook.com/lyme-disease-diet-and-supplements-vitamin-a-b-c-magnesium

“Magnesium: Both Lyme and Bartonella significantly deplete the body’s supply of magnesium. Magnesium is one of the most important mineral nutrients necessary for good health, and also one of the minerals that Americans in general are most commonly deficient in. The recommended daily intake of magnesium for healthy people is 400 mg per day, but the sad reality is that the average American gets about half that amount per day. The best nutritional sources include green foods, especially collards and chard (magnesium is to chlorophyll what iron is to hemoglobin), orange-colored foods, nuts, chocolate, figs, apricots, coconut, bran, oats, beans, and legumes.

Most widely known for its ability to support the health of the bones, heart, skeletal muscles, and teeth, magnesium also plays essential roles in the maintenance and repair of all body cells, energy production, hormone regulation, nerve transmission, and the metabolism of proteins and nucleic acids. It also helps to reverse muscular tension and is involved in the functioning of literally hundreds of the body’s enzymatic reactions. A lack of magnesium can also contribute to immune system dysfunction, depression, fatigue, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, gastrointestinal problems, irregular heartbeat, memory problems, mood swings, muscle spasms and twitching, and motor skill problems. “

Hope that helps. . . I am still trying to figure out what causes my tremor. Magnesium controlled it for a while, but it is helping less as time goes on.

Good Luck!!

RB Walton - Thanks for your reply. Have you been dx'd with Lyme disease?
Where is your tremor and when does it occur? Mine is when I am resting, not at all in movement. Mine is only on one side that is why I am so worried about Parkinsons, for which there is no test, it is dx'd by clinical observation and because mine is internal that is possible right now.

Sorry for more ?'s.......but scared & worried.

[watsonsh]

Invisible I think you posted on my wall about internal tremor.

I had what felt like an internal tremor while at rest and it was really only on one side of my body which was left side (shoulder, head, neck area). And I felt it more at rest than anything else. Turned out to be a nerve that was impinged and spasming. It also sat really close to a blood vessel and the pressure on both is what was causing the sensation for me.

I hope you find some answers.

[rbwalton]

No, I have not been diagnosed with Lyme disease. My tremor is all in movement or in trying to hold my hand or leg steady against gravity. How you describe your tremor does not really sound like Parkinson's to me (I am not a doctor). "At rest tremor" or not, I think usually they are noticeable to outside viewers. Does it stop when you try to move? Is it in your hands or feet? Does it feel at all similar to a muscle spasm? Do you have any of the other early symptoms that might also point to Parkinson's?

Originally Posted by invisable

RB Walton - Thanks for your reply. Have you been dx'd with Lyme disease?
Where is your tremor and when does it occur? Mine is when I am resting, not at all in movement. Mine is only on one side that is why I am so worried about Parkinsons, for which there is no test, it is dx'd by clinical observation and because mine is internal that is possible right now.

Sorry for more ?'s.......but scared & worried.

[invisable]

Thanks again for you replies.

My tremor is in calf of right leg, slightly in (rgt) arm & hand, chest & stomach. Is most noticable upon wakening. It does stop with movement. No other Parkinsons movement symptoms, but I have had many abnormal neuro sensations all over body, neuro took all kinds of tests; MRI's, Spinal Tap, 2 EMG's, lots of blood work, all neg. But Parkinsons doesn't show up in any of these tests, one has to wait for clinical symptoms to be obserable by Dr. and since mine are internal (tremor) & sensations.....no dx.

Lots of anxiety here!!!

[rbwalton]

Invisable-
Well, whatever it is you are not alone. Try google search of "invisible tremor." Here is one example that sounded just like you.

There is one for medhelp dot org (can not post links yet- hard to show this to make it easier to get to.

posts/Undiagnosed-Symptoms/invisible-tremors/show/1052092

What other odd neurological symptoms do you have?

Originally Posted by invisable

Thanks again for you replies.

My tremor is in calf of right leg, slightly in (rgt) arm & hand, chest & stomach. Is most noticable upon wakening. It does stop with movement. No other Parkinsons movement symptoms, but I have had many abnormal neuro sensations all over body, neuro took all kinds of tests; MRI's, Spinal Tap, 2 EMG's, lots of blood work, all neg. But Parkinsons doesn't show up in any of these tests, one has to wait for clinical symptoms to be obserable by Dr. and since mine are internal (tremor) & sensations.....no dx.

Lots of anxiety here!!!

[invisable]

Thanks for the site - it sounded like I wrote it!

My other sensations are pin & needles randomly all over body, a wormy crawly feeling in leg, electrical type current sensations and sometimes a feeling like water has spilled on my leg. My neuro gave me Gabapentin, which helped wipe out about 80% of these, but the tremor continues.

I pray it is not Parkinsons.......it is a tough disease, a lot more to it than shaking.

[rbwalton]

Your other symptoms sound a lot like restless leg syndrome. Oh, and it can also be in arms and hands, on one side but both is more common. And, I just saw a study that found a possible association with essential tremor.

And a new theory emerges.

What if as you are waking up feeling the desire to move do the the RLS, and as you start to move, you feel the tremor. When I started to get a tremor I first noticed it as I was waking up and using my left arm to adjust the covers. This was long before I noticed it in regular awake hours. This may not fit you, but I wanted to give you another possibility other than Parkinson's.

What do your doctors say about you possibly having Parkinson's?

(The more I look at this stuff the more it seems I might have Parkinson's. Too many symptoms in that list, and some of them are common to many other processes other than Parkinson's.)

Originally Posted by invisable

Thanks for the site - it sounded like I wrote it!

My other sensations are pin & needles randomly all over body, a wormy crawly feeling in leg, electrical type current sensations and sometimes a feeling like water has spilled on my leg. My neuro gave me Gabapentin, which helped wipe out about 80% of these, but the tremor continues.

I pray it is not Parkinsons.......it is a tough disease, a lot more to it than shaking.