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Old 06-21-2007, 04:38 AM #21
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Jarrett, mj is never going to taste particularly good, lol. What medicine does? But I bet you did what every young person does, and put mj straight into your brownies. Yuckos!

The best method for using mj for baking is to make mj butter, and then replace the reg.butter/margarine called for in the recipe with it. It keeps for a very long time when refrigerated, so you can make a big batch at a time.

When done this way, you strain out ALL the sediment, and end up with green butter. It can be cooked with, put on toast, whatever. I used to make cinnamon toast with it, to help mask the flavor. Add a cup of hot cocoa, and you're all set!

But here's a warning for anyone considering eating mj or cooking with it... the effects last much longer than smoked mj (Another reason for consuming it instead... it goes a lot farther when used this way). If you try this, make sure you have a full day of no responsibilities just in case you overdo it.
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After 5 years of all the testing and mediciations I have found taking Lyrica 75mg x 2 and a halfbowl at nite 1 hour before bed time makes for a great nites sleep and a following morning with a pain of 1 that being the tingling , also able to walk with a fairly good gait. There is an article from a major medical school in the neuropathy association newsletter about paitents using marijuana for pn pain. A while back I went cold turkey due to maxing out on a drug mixture I was taking and after reading this article I experienced the relief that mj has to offer. Vicodin is very addictive in case you wanted to know. If you are taking a mixture of meds please pay attention to the PIS as side effects might be more harmful. Hope this helps you nice people
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Stagger mentions addiction in the last post, which raises a question for me. I have always wanted to know how many people truly experience withdrawal? I have, in my lifetime, quit crystal meth, paxil (numerous times), vicodin and morphine. I never had a bit of trouble doing it. My mood might have been a little flaky for the first few days, but that's about it. No physical problems, though.

How about any of you?

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To come back to the original post, stopping an anti-seziure medication too fast, i.e. neurontin, can result in big trouble. It is technically not a withdrawl and is better understood now than years ago. But still it does not hurt to caution people
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I remember those days,oh well. Yes the first first post do not please
just don't go off cold turkey. I admire what you want to do,but call your
Dr. he-she will tell you how to go off. After all they can't make you
stay on it. Dan i posted his books awhile back,i enjoyed them and he
had the bucks and whatever to try all of everything, I think he was
a lawyer and is in his eighty's. Anyhow i use to pass them around
at the PN support group i started.
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Stagger mentions addiction in the last post, which raises a question for me. I have always wanted to know how many people truly experience withdrawal? I have, in my lifetime, quit crystal meth, paxil (numerous times), vicodin and morphine. I never had a bit of trouble doing it. My mood might have been a little flaky for the first few days, but that's about it. No physical problems, though.

How about any of you

My MS neuro back in OH, always told me it is not addiction if you use it as prescribed ... it is dependence. Necessary for sympom relief.

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I have been on Neurontin for 7 years; each time they tried to lower my dose or wean me off I would have flare-ups with my RSD. I don't think I would try an herbal treatment instead of it, but I would be willing to for the other medications I'm on.
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My MS neuro back in OH, always told me it is not addiction if you use it as prescribed ... it is dependence. Necessary for sympom relief.

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Taking Narcotics/Opiates,worth the read even if a bit long
I copied this from a newsletter I receive called "Dominie's Newsletter" dated November 1, 2006 written for people with Fibromyalgia, CFS, &/or M.E. Well this article could pretain to anyone in severe pain. I not only have RSD, but also Fibromyalgia & Sjogren's Syndrome. I have read concern from members here & from other websites in the past about how we, who take powerful pain medications for severe pain &/or how some of us are scared to take powerful pain medications for fear of addiction or what other people will/would think of us, including our own Doctors. Well Dominie was sent this from another reader of her website/newsletter, who was not named or I would give that person complete credit for what she wrote, on this specific subject. The drug that she is talking about is Oxycontin. But this could pretain to any opiate/narcotic that anyone of us may take for RSD pain.

"People don't become addicted to oxycontin in three days. It just does not happen that fast. Talk to any medical specialist (doctor, nurse, pharmacist) and they will tell you. Yes, after two weeks if you stop cold turkey, you will have withdrawal symptoms. You should NEVER stop a medication like that cold turkey, but that does not mean the medicine is addictive. You should not stop heart medication cold turkey, you should not stop diabetes meds cold turkey, you should not stop steroids cold turkey because you will have side effects if you do. Some can be dangeorus. But you don't hear anyone say they are addicted to heart medicine! Withdrawal symptoms means your body has become accustomed to having the drug in your system, but that is NOT addiction.

You should take great care with ANY medicine and should know the facts, potential side effects, potential problems with other medicines, etc. We must take responsibility for what we put in our bodies. But we should not shy away from pain medicine if it will help us function, particularly if the pain is severe and nothing else helps. Side effects from stopping a medication can be avoided altogether or greatly reduced if you do so according to directions and oxycontin is one you do not stop cold turkey w/o side effects.

As for oxycontin being an abused street drug, yes it is one of many drugs used by junkies. NOT because it is highly addictive but because it is a time-released pill and when you crush it, you get the entire dose at one time. This gets a person very high. It is also extremely dangerous, particularly with the higher dose tablets. The tablets most people are given for pain are the lower dose ones. You only get the higher dose ones when you have something like cancer and only after you work your way up to the higher amounts. When taken properly for pain control, oxycontin is no more addictive than any other pain medicine (i.e. the % are very low). The only reason oxycontin is sought out by street junkies more than some others is the slow-release aspect giving them a bigger high. When taken as directed for pain control, a person doesn't even get a mild buzz from it once your body adapts to the side effects.

If taken properly, pain medicine can be extremely beneficial. Of course if there is a natural remedy that works I would take that before I would take a prescription drug. But sometimes you need prescription medicines. The main thing people need to do is research. Don't put something in your body until you have read, read, read and know all there is to know about it. Some people think just because a doctor writes a prescription, it must be safe and that is a very dangerous mindset. Just as it is dangerous to assume that just because something is sold over the counter, it must be safe. Even water, taken in excess, can kill. Too much water in a short period of time will throw off your electrolytes and cause your brain to swell and you can die.

It frustrates us when the medical community poo-pahs natural remedies, esp. when we know they work. But there are people in the natural healing arena that can be just as close-minded by only accepting natural remedies and refusing to even consider prescription meds. For me, I take natural remedies 99% of the time, but there is that 1% I take that isn't.

I don't think anyone should take opiates lightly, but I also don't think they should be scared out of taking them because there are people that use them on the street to get high. There are people who use pseudoephedrine to make crystal meth, but that doesn't mean people with a runny nose shouldn't take a decongestant. There are people who sniff glue to get high, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be allowed to use glue. It's all in using it for its intended purpose correctly.

It is hard enough to have a disease people make fun of and disbelieve. We shouldn't also have to deal with the stigma of being a "drug addict" when we take pain medicine. People who take insulin for diabetes aren't bad-mouthed. People who take heart medicine or anti-seizures meds aren't made to feel bad for it. Why do so many sit in judgment of those who must take pain medicine?

If you find yourself taking more medicine than prescribed, if you find yourself doing whatever it takes to get more and more drugs (stealing your doctor's prescription pad, buying them illegally over the internet, stealing them from people's medicine cabinets, seeing more than one doctor to get more meds), then you have a problem and should seek help. But if you are taking the medicine as prescribed to control severe pain you cannot control with anything else, then don't let others make you feel guilty for doing so. And don't let others scare you into avoiding them."

I hope this was/is helpful to atleast one person out there. If you would be interested in her website you can find it here:

http://www.fms-help.com/

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Nice post, IHH! Thanks for sharing that.

I totally agree with it. The word addiction is bandied about too readily, it's become a crutch. Not that there aren't true addicts... I met many of them in San Diego and Mexico.

I also agree with using a combination of herbal and pharmaceutical remedies. I know that using medical marijuana cuts back greatly on my need for narcotics, which can only be a good thing. I have no anxiety meds, but I use tea in the same way. Medical mj is great for anxiety, too. It rarely makes one paranoid, regardless of the rumors.

There is never going to be one regime that fits all patients, that's just impossible. I think that everyone in as much pain as us rsd'ers are in, should try anything they can to get some relief.

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Nice post, IHH! Thanks for sharing that.

I totally agree with it. The word addiction is bandied about too readily, it's become a crutch. Not that there aren't true addicts... I met many of them in San Diego and Mexico.

I also agree with using a combination of herbal and pharmaceutical remedies. I know that using medical marijuana cuts back greatly on my need for narcotics, which can only be a good thing. I have no anxiety meds, but I use tea in the same way. Medical mj is great for anxiety, too. It rarely makes one paranoid, regardless of the rumors.

There is never going to be one regime that fits all patients, that's just impossible. I think that everyone in as much pain as us rsd'ers are in, should try anything they can to get some relief.

Pot may not make one paranoid but it does trigger and can increase anxiety and panic attacks in people. It did this to me. It also depends on the kind of pot it is. Just like meds we all react differently to the different varieties of pot out there. Pot doesn't do diddly squat for me for any kind of pain relief. It does the opposite. It makes any pain I have more intense. So that's not a solution for me.
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