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Old 11-09-2015, 01:01 PM #11
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If the body is so regulated for healthy function, why so much poor health and disease?

Personally, I was much much healthier prior to menopause. And even prior to hip surgery.

Everyone has an opinion on every topic and I mean every topic. Even our best friends have different opinions from us. So one just needs to go with what feels RIGHT to them and their body and better health. Lemons are still my good friends. And I'll be doing some testing on consuming more GREENS. Good for all comments made by members. And we all have our opinions and belief systems. And there are no absolutes. C
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I believe scientific balance is required for those who come after, despite one's own opinions. This Wiki article explains the Alkaline Diet, citing scientific Study where necessary:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_diet

It is the most accessible article I read, and no-one is trying to sell books, aids, Memberships or supplements.

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Thanks Dave, I've been researching the Lemon for years. I've read so many sites. And all in all Lemons are pretty affordable. I'm giving the Kratom a trial, just ordered it for pain.
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Make sure you wash your lemons well before cutting them.

They have been found to be carriers of many fungi and bacteria.

http://health.clevelandclinic.org/20...t-restaurants/

I wash lemons, limes, cantaloupe and watermelons well with a bit of soap and rinse well before putting into our foods.

We don't use fresh citrus often, though, because it can be sensitizing for those with arthritis. I get my Vit C from Puritan's Pride...the timed release type.
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Caroline, thanks for this topic.

I've just read through this thread.

I appreciate all of the input. Lots of effort put into this thread.

I am in touch with many alternative practitioners. Unfortunately, this idea is pushed a great deal. When shown the science, which disproves the acid/alkaline diet theories, some just will not let go of the myth. It's very frustrating to show people the science on this and to listen to the continued misrepresentations.

Many people do not understand the way the body balances pH, so they fall subject to these false teachings.

I am very open to new ideas, to new approaches, to new theories and to new scientific findings. However, I feel there must be a balance.

If science proves/disproves any specific theories, I feel it's important to pay attention and if we want to share information... share truths.

What good is it to teach untruths, or ideas which have been specifically disproven by science?

I sometimes touch upon areas which are controversial. If so, these ideas have not been yet disproven, or at least not to my knowledge. I am happy to give up ideas which are proven as untruths. In fact, I want to know if they are truth or untruth... as I want do not want to further untruths.

I am more invested in wanting to know the truth than in holding onto and continuing to teach any given idea. I am looking for the truth, even though, in some areas, the truth is more difficult to discern.

If I hope to have a positive impact in a health-oriented community, or in my own life and with my own health and healing, I must pay attention to evidence-based truths.

I may, someday, post on a topic which I feel/think is true. If someone steps up and shows me the science has proven this idea/theory untrue, I am deeply grateful. Please show me.

I am so glad we can all count upon one another to show one another evidence-based truths when evidence-based truths are available.

Please, friends, help to support me in knowing truths.

Thanks to each participant.



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Myth - maybe , maybe not.... can't hurt to eat less refined sugars & processed foods...

[Acidosis
Written by Suzanne Allen, Kristeen Cherney and Elizabeth Boskey, PhD | Published on October 23, 2015
Medically Reviewed by Deborah Weatherspoon, Ph.D, RN, CRN ]
http://www.healthline.com/health/acidosis#Overview1
http://www.healthline.com/health/about-healthline



[From the evidence outlined above, it would be prudent to consider an alkaline diet to reduce morbidity and mortality of chronic disease that are plaguing our aging population. One of the first considerations in an alkaline diet, which includes more fruits and vegetables, is to know what type of soil they were grown in since this may significantly influence the mineral content. At this time, there are limited scientific studies in this area, and many more studies are indicated in regards to muscle effects, growth hormone, and interaction with vitamin D.]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3195546/
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Hi Jo*Mar,

Interesting!

I am all too happy to eat my hat, anytime.
Honestly!

If dietary approaches are helpful in this way, I'll consider this great news, as it gives many an opportunity to have more of an impact in one's own health.

I've heard the rhetoric for soooo long now, and have not seen anyone show any related proof. In fact, most people I've seen presenting this dietary approach had no idea as to how the body works in this regard... regulating pH.

I know I feel better eating a more alkaline diet; I wasn't convinced eating an alkaline diet was changing my overall pH.

I hope people can have a bigger impact upon health than ever thought, or yet proven, by food choices.

Thanks for sharing this information.
Food for thought.

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Thanks for those links Jo*mar. I agree that avoiding processed foods and refined sugar foods are both good plans.

In my view healthy eating involves eating a wide range of natural foods, all in moderation.

These include (in no special order): fruit, vegetables, sources of slow-release (low GI) carbohydrates - eg, brown rice, fish, eggs, cheese, white meat, nuts, pulses and red meat in moderation.

In my opinion eating in this way will meet the body's nutritional needs well, with no need (unless medical issues indicate otherwise), for nutritional supplements.
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[In my opinion eating in this way will meet the body's nutritional needs well, with no need (unless medical issues indicate otherwise), for nutritional supplements. ]

Possibly kiwi, but the soils are so depleted now from over farming use & abuse... toxins, chemicals.. who really knows what that does to us long term...

Big corporations that focus on $$$$ over nutrition, health, safety..
They're buying out the family farms..
same for the chicken, turkey and probably all meats industry.
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Speaking of the TRUTH, as I see it, we all find our truths and go with them. If I posted everything I think about the industries, all the industries and all the $$$$$ -- I'd be thrown off here. I'm on a couple health groups and we are all mostly alternative in our healing practices, some exceptions as meds are needed by some....we speak what we think about it all. For me it took years to get here. My daughter who went thru "H" and back, is finding all this out earlier than me. Thank goodness she woke up but the price was dear on what she has gone thru.

Bottom line we have to care for ourselves as no one else cares. To me this is Truth. C
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