I had a "thing" quite a few years ago before MS was confirmed where it felt like a baby kicking and/or turning (no chance!) under my ribs. It lasted a few weeks. It wasn't painful; just strange. I didn't do anything about it, but I was mystified. After MS was confirmed I just figured I'd blame it on that.

If yours has been coming and going all these years, it probably is just an annoyed muscle, brought on by the fever. I would think anything dangerous would have showed up in your tests or at the very least, caused some major pain. Sounds like your Dr. is on top of things.

Keep us posted!

C

NO WAY!! My neuro thinks I am crazy when I told her about that. It's happened to me a few times in the last year and normally lasts a week or two. The last time I actually went and bought a pregnancy test just to be sure! I am so glad I am not the only one!

I hope it's not a flare, Dej..

It could be one of those change of weather thingys.

(((Dej))) Giving you gentle hugs.

Could it be from MS, absolutely. It sounds like a milder form of the hug. This was one my presenting symptoms and one that I now deal with on a daily basis to varying degrees. I have it on my left side and when it becomes more "active" you can actually see not only the muscles in the ribcage but the complete outline of my stomach. Ouch!

The good news is that your liver appears to be functioning normally. Phew!

I hope it is not a flare and that you start feeling better soon.

The way I think of it is, anywhere that has nerve endings or a nerve supply, in theory, can take damage as your myelin is eaten away.
Though the liver has no direct inner nerve paths through it, it does have a supply to the bile duct and surrounding areas, portal veins and hepatic arteries. Otherwise the blood supply would not be under control.

So I think that where there is a nerve, there could be damage.
Now whether this damage can cause pain, discomfort or sensations is another matter.
But if nerve damage in the spine can cause you to feel 'water running down a leg' , then I think anything is possible.

Take it easy.

OK, maybe I understated the pain level. it has been rocking on a 7 out of 10 for me most of the day. it doesnt stay there, it can go as low as 4 but ramp back up to 7. its PAINFUL!

I loved the feeling of my baby rolling around my tummy, and that is the only way I can describe this, BUT it feels like he grabbed onto my liver and is yanking! I am not preggers, long ago had the factory shut down.

One theory is that the fever from the ear infection set off a flair. The MDs cant find out what is making this happen, and clearly can feel it when they put their hands on my tummy. They have all said they have never seen anything like it. Dont ya know its special when they call in an office partner to "come see this thing!"

I have written an email to my neuro office, I am sure they will respond bright and early. Its HUGE for me to go see a surgeon for a second opinion. I am a "stop touching me" kinda girl.

Thanks for the hugs and well wishes. they mean alot.

With the new description - I am thinking more HUG! It is at times extremely painful. When it is bad the only thing I can do is lay flat on my back. I also get lots of shooting, sharp, burning, and stabbing like pains. Not to mention dam* near passing out and throwing up from the pain. Truly, it is not fun.

Like you, I am a don't touch me kind of girls as well as a stop breathing when in pain kind of girl. I don't scream out, I become real withdrawn and quiet. (No wonder DBF likes it when the Hug acts up. j/k He really doesn't as I get pale and sickly looking, etc from the pain and he wants to help but feels helpless as there is nothing he can do.)

Also like you, for me to even pick up the phone and call the dr is a major deal. I hate, hate going. (Hence the reason I ended up with a 2 round abx sinus infection). And to go to the ER is even a bigger deal. Working in one is one thing, being a patient in one is totally different.

Let us know how things turn out for you and how you are doing. In the meantime, try laying flat on your back with your arms over your head and take some deep breaths. This does help. Additionally, ice packs on that side may help. Ice is great for nerve conduction.

Dejibo,
I want to say that I don't think it is MS, JMO. I can only compare that I have had this and so has a friend of mine without MS. I was going to my GI doctor for my other problem years ago, and while there I had him feel the sort of bulge under my Liver, right above the waistline.

It felt very uncomfortable most of the time when it was there. I was getting it off and on during the last 10 years. I think it started even before that, for I was tested for gallbladder a long time ago.

Many doctors had tested me for gallbladder, liver tests, GI tests upper and lower, many scans and nothing was found. It drove me crazy.

He, being a GI surgeon, said it was a misplaced muscle that can spasm at times. It can bulge and you feel the movement. The bowels tend to set it off at times too. You could have twisted it or pulled it, he said to me.

It goes back into place again. That's what I think it is. I hope you are not having a flare.

When I changed ins and didn't get my "C" years ago, my MS Specialist said don't worry you are covered with the "C" for 5 months, it will still be working for you until you get the med again. So I don't think it is the drug holiday. JMO of course.

I get this to and literally it feels like a baby kicking. I myself even though I have my tubes tied have went and bought a pregnancy test on a couple different episodes of this. Well I didn't want the doctor to think I went crazy. So I have never mentioned it before. But if you find out what it is please let me know as well if not we can always say its the MonSter inside of us.

Had my CT scan at the crack of insanity this morn. I was at the hosp at 5:30 am and they gave me that yummy berry flavored crap to drink. I complain bitterly when they give me that stuff, because its full of aspertame! that stuff messes with me, and gives me a brain splitting headache for 2 days after having it. They no longer carry the plain stuff without flavors. When they offer you something to drink now, its DIET! they dont carry regular ginger ale or juices, its all DIET! aspterame and I dont get along. So, they give the nauseous girl something yucky to drink. I choked it down, and was ever so proud, and then waited for it all to sink to the bottom. Got in the room, and he hands me another glass to drink! I took two swallows, and starting gagging, and he said "thats enough!"

They took a complete history, were careful to elicit questions about where on my tummy I feel the pain the most, and they were careful to listen. They re read the MD notes and re examined me, and asked me to hold my hand over where it hurts the most, while they lined up the machine. Last CTScan was 7.5 mil slices. This one is 2.5 ml slices, so much more detail.

Will have more answers in a day or two. Till then, I am nauseous with a headache, and am crawling back into bed with my kitties. I hope they can figure this thing out. Im tired of it.