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A jump in PML cases is concerning, but also remember that Biogen/Elan are testing various assays to diagnose PML earlier and risk stratify patients. It’s possible that these PML cases were identified (in this large clump) as a result of testing patients (those in Trials most likely) with these assays possibly before clinical symptoms. Chris |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | ewizabeth (10-28-2009) |
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Biogen stopped updating investors on the number of PML cases at the end of July, saying it wanted to focus on the drug's benefits, and would update the medical community at scientific meetings.
Biogen spokeswoman Naomi Aoki declined to comment on whether the figure of 23 cases were consistent with its own records, and she reiterated that the company would not update the public case by case. *According to Reuters*
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Lady (10-24-2009) |
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"Biogen Idec and our partner Elan currently believe, as the recent FDA update indicated, that the risk of developing PML increases with the number of TYSABRI infusions received. ...." "We have proposed, and are currently discussing with the regulatory authorities, a potential label change to reflect this increased risk of PML with increased duration of TYSABRI exposure." From the Q & A: "QUESTION: May-Kin Ho - Goldman Sachs Will you have to spell out what the risks are at different time periods? ANSWER: Al Sandrock, MD We are still in discussions with the regulators at this point." "QUESTION: Steven Harr - Morgan Stanley I wanted to get an understanding, previously you guys have said that you did not believe that TYSABRI PML risk was related to time on the drug and then clearly something changed. You gave us exposure numbers, is there something new on number of PML cases you can offer us, or is there something you can offer us as an explanation as to why you saw more patients exposed to the drug during the quarter than on therapy? It must have been 1,300 patients that dropped off during the course of the quarter. ANSWER: Bob Hamm You know we are not giving out actual patient numbers, but I can tell you as time goes on the numbers of patients treated for the longer duration is increased and our 95% competence intervals on the incident rate narrows and as that happens we get more clarity about the risk. That was the reason why we had decided to update the label with this increase in the risk with the length of exposure." They also brought up the JC testing they are working on: "Additionally, we continue to allocate significant time and resources to identifying PML risk factors and in developing ways to stratify, mitigate, and manage the risks. We are working on this internally and we are also working to set up a consortium of other interested collaborators. The premise of our work is that PML in TYSABRI treated patients' results from a convergence of factors including the presence of JC virus, immune compromise, viral mutations, duration of treatment, and perhaps other factors such as risk [oleal] MFO. With respect to the presence of virus recent published data in larger cohorts using more refined serological techniques indicates that seroprevalence is in fact less frequent in the textbook dogma of 80% or 90%. We have analytically validated a serological method with the goal of one day offering a commercially available assay that may inform about the relative risk of developing PML." http://seekingalpha.com/article/1676...ngs-call-trans... 10 cases in a month is a lot, even if there are 46,000 on the drug right now, and 13-odd thousand who've been on for more than 24 months. If every month 10 people continued to be added to the total, it would not be good!!. Cherie
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Didn't Biogen rush this drug to market saying it was safe? Didn't they state that PML only happened in MS patients who had taken other immune system altering drugs? Didn't they state earlier that there wasn't additional risk of PML when using the drug for long periods of time? Didn't they tell Dr. L. Steinman, the co-inventor of the drug, to keep quiet when he initially told the media that this drug would prove dangerous as time went on? Like you said, if this increased incidence of PML continues with the numbers that we have seen in the last month, it will be more than "not good" for Biogen. Like one of the business analysts stated, it will be "devastating"! Take care. Harry |
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As I said earlier, maybe the case jump is due to assay testing of patients in the long term monitoring trials
From Forbes article today http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/27/ms-...rtner=yahootix "The test Yednock and his colleagues developed found that something like 50% of the patients have JC virus. There are eight cases of patients who developed PML where Elan and Biogen-Idec have blood samples going back long before the infection happened. All of those cases had JC virus antibodies in their bloodstreams a year before they got PML. "That's a pretty good starting point," says Yednock. Elan has transferred the assay to a commercial laboratory, a step toward making it available to patients. The test, which uses antibodies to detect the presence of JC virus, could be done with just a saliva sample. It has not been evaluated by regulators or the larger scientific community, but the hope is that doctors might be able to use it to pick which patients are the best candidates for Tysabri therapy." Chris |
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