Not taking credit for anyone's work. These were copied from the old forum and in my files. If I wrote It, I'd say I wrote it. The resources and links that I posted here was something I have compiled over the years so I will take credit for putting those together. Kurtzze has been around for years and set the standard for MS disability scale in the early 80's. Anyone who thought I'd written that has not been in the MS community long.

I would encourage anyone who has reliable information to post it here so that it benefits all.
Cherie

Great info ladies. Nice to have for newbies who need a quick resource.

Christine

Actually, you seem to be writing this for those unfamiliar with MS, so yes, people MIGHT have thought you'd written it since you are not sharing this info for those who have "been in the MS community long". But since we can't always get into the minds or backgrounds of our audience, general rules and guidelines have been developed so that there is no misunderstanding.

My concern is not that you take credit for your work Cherie. My concern is that you MUST provide credit if you did NOT write something yourself. Or not post it at all.

If you did not write something yourself (or acknowledge any material IN your written work to the appropriate sources), then you MUST NOT post it.

You said: "These were copied from the old forum and in my files". Unfortunately, that does not give specific credit to the specific authors and is insufficient. Copyright and plagiarism and all that silly stuff that lets people get the credit they deserve for writing somethin...

It's just important in health reporting (especially on forums where who said what might get mixed up) that you understand sourcing and attribution. And don't post if you are unable to provide the original source for the material. Lots of stuff regardless of attribution or sourcing STILL may not be posted by others without express permission of the author. It's important to know the rules.

Thanks.

You will find "Understanding MS" excerpted from the NMSS website last year.

Here is an article I found (altho anyone can find many others on the web, this is just offered as an example) about copying and copyright and important information for anyone who copies other people's work. My posts above were meant to be helpful information to all, although I have received criticism in private for trying to be helpful.

The penalties are extremely hefty if you copy someone's work beyond "fair use" and if you excerpt their work without giving them credit. I hope my caution and this general information will protect people.

So here is a general (although probably not definitive) information source for more information if anyone wants to make sure they don't get into trouble by posting someone else's information.

http://www.umuc.edu/library/copy.shtml

Cherie, due to the fact that most of my nursing instructors were pretty old. I really expected you to be much older. You are a lovely young lady! I hope your husband appreciates you!!!!!

Thanks Doydie. He does. He's younger than I but almost looks like he could be my dad. Oh...I graduated from college the first time in 73 so have been a nurse for 33 years. And a social worker for 7. And an MS Certified nurse for 3. And a published author for .....well, the first piece was 1968 and the most recent this year. So I know all about copywrite laws and courtesies.

Cherie, it appears you copied this material, exactly (including spelling errors), from the mult-sclerosis website. That is Paul Jones' website. Your copy DOES contain "original intact sentences" since it is copied EXACTLY, save for your inability to copy the graphs and diagrams he has.

See: http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/whatisms.html

Cherie I understand you are a professional as you made clear in your PM to me outlining your extensive background. This website (BT2) could get into big trouble and you could be fined heavily for copying & pasting someone else's material and then claiming you somehow changed it so that "few original intact sentences" remain when this is simply not true. You copied the text as it was, Paul Jones' work, then gave an inaccurate source when asked to give credit to the original author who worked hard to compile and write this information. You then claimed you somehow altered the original to a point where it was your own. It looks to me that you copied it exactly from his work and you didn't change it but tried to take the credit for his work.

I think Paul Jones deserves the credit for writing what he did and it is very important to give a link to your source and acknowledge his authorship. I don't even think you're allowed to copy such a large segment of someone else's work, but that's for you to determine.

This is just a really good example of why it is important to know your source, to provide it (even if it is just a journal publication citation), and to make sure you don't take credit for someone else's hard work. Paul Jones has given so much of himself to the MS community, he deserves recognition for his work and not someone passing it off as their own.

Hi Cherie,

Thanks for posting all of this helpful info. I wonder if this is going to be the new BT home? Looks like a nice clean slate here.

Hmmmm, Cherie would you send me a Pm please I see that you dont accept PM's