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There is a thread here recently on MS about Drug Advertising on TV...
Statins are typically done that way. There were even Newsweek and Time articles (not ads) back when Pravachol and Zocor went generic... saying statins are so safe, we should have them in our drinking water! Just a year or so ago, Big Pharma tried to get children on statins! That was all over CNN. Now that we have almost eliminated TRANS FATS, the heart attack and stroke risks will go down. Trans fats came in the late 30's as Crisco...and ended up in margarine during WWII to save butter. They were very toxic and destroyed cardiovascular health and the health of developing fetus' brains.
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Whodda thunk oatmeal would be so beneficial to one's health? I didn't realize it myself, I just liked oatmeal and decided it was in my best interests to start eating breakfast when I returned to work 2.5 years back. My Folic Acid and cholesterol numbers show the benefit of including cereals in ones diet for sure! ![]() With that said, I'm with mrsD about the cholesterol info and what's fact v myth. My father actually alerted me to the cholesterol myth and info, as well as his belief that the real problem we're facing with disease are vegetable oils. Interesting stuff! Hope this medication does well for you Ewiz ![]()
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They are now saying the whole egg is not a problem either - the yolk alone is so loaded with nutrients that it far outweighs any of the former egg & cholesterol scare tactics.
http://nutrition.about.com/od/askyou...gs_protein.htm http://www.livestrong.com/article/27...trition-facts/ http://www.incredibleegg.org/health-...nutrient-chart It's probably more important how you cook your eggs and what you eat with them.
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I am thinking of how much my mom loved eggs, I mean, LOVED eggs. We were two peas in a pod, singing along with that old commercial on TV: "I love eggs, from my head down to my legs..."
She used to nearly cry watching others eat scrambled eggs and fried eggs and egg salad sandwiches and deviled eggs...she was a good girl, though, and stopped eating eggs to bring her cholesterol down, making nasty faces at the "Egg Beaters", saying "stupid fake eggs". I'm not militantly anti-medical profession by any means, but it sure is depressing every time they tell you to stop immediately taking the drugs (or supplements) they've been pounding on you to take forever. And saying you could have been eating/drinking/enjoying whatever after all. *sigh*
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Dej,
I eat a large bowl of cheerios with skim milk at least five mornings a week. It's still up there. DH and DS do the cooking now. When I did the cooking it was better. ![]() Mrs D, That link didn't work. Weren't the higher doses the problem? I'm on the lowest dose. I could even break these in half if I needed to. Sal, I'll check out some of those cholesterol lowering products. I already take 1 TB of metamucil at bedtime. I'm sure there are other things I could do. Quote:
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Kitty,
My big sister died at age 37 of a brain aneurysm, my mom had strokes starting in her early 70s then later had alzheimer's. I'm going to give this a shot and if I don't have side effects I'll stick with it until I can get my life under control as far as diet, rest and exercise. Right now working on my MBA means I have to sit and study a lot too. MrsD, I already take CoQ10. I'm taking the generic Zocor btw. It cost me $2.14 with my insurance for a one month supply. Quote:
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What link didn't work... the YouTube?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE The others work when I click on them again. Anyway...statins have been shown to increase risk of hemorrhagic strokes. Any small statistical improvement for ischemic strokes , is offset by their numbers for hemorrhagic events. http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/co...A.107.488791v1 The numbers are not great on either side of this question. Zocor is one of the most lipophilic statins, so watch for CNS side effects. It is good that you take the CoQ-10 already... you might need a higher dose with the statin. Statins block the synthesis of CoQ-10 in the liver. It is your decision after all. This is my post on the Peripherial Neuropathy subforum: http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post665830-5.html Also watch for neuropathy. This link gives the pros and cons in numbers...it reflects a more recent meta study: http://www.naturalnews.com/028988_st...e_effects.html This is the study from Canada, in 2007 on women: http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...UCPylVneoWax8g Basically success or need by women is questionable. So be very watchful for any side effects. Take care. ![]() (Aneurysms are thought to be inherited).
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My dad worked outside most of his life. He ate eggs and butter and pork and cookies with trans fats all of his life. His cholesterol was always low. He live to age 92. Maybe if I could work outdoors I could be like him, lol. ![]()
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There has also been suggestion that the longer a baby is breast fed (very high cholesterol in breast milk) the lower the cholesterol is in adulthood. Babies that consume low cholesterol formulas, have a higher set point in the liver and make more as adults. Also it is not eggs/butter/meat who are the culprits. It is SUGAR...predominately fructose. New studies on obesity and sugar, find that cholesterol is raised by the metabolism of fructose in the liver. What is even more astonishing is that we've known this since the 1980's! http://www.hepatitis.org.uk/s-crina/cholesterol.htm Quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/health/23sugar.html This new medical video explains this chemistry...it is long but very very interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM It is not so simple, to apply the same numbers to everyone in other words. Your dad was probably very high in Vit D... many people from the generations who worked outside, escaped chronic illness (until our medical "experts" said to get out of the sun or cover up). Vit D improves immunity, and prevents cancer when levels are high.
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That's right.
What is your triglyceride level? mine is high .... ![]() Everyone always focuses only on the cholesterol # but really health wise the triglycerides can have much more impact. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/triglycerides.html http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4778
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