Aarcyn,

Yea! Master Kush, eh? Sounds like a good one to me.

I'm glad it's relieving pain and it's not making you too stoney. I can't read anything after medicating - I can't remember a thing I read, lol.

As for storage - don't woory about it too much. As long as it's in a baggie, jar, or anything that's airtight, your alright. I would stick it in a closet where it's dark. I have a refrigerator on our back patio that doesn't work and has a locking device on it. I keep everything in there. Kind of like a poor man's safe, I guess.

Isn't it nice to wake up in the morning with no hangover from drugs?

You mentioned smoking at 7 and again at 10:30. That's a good regimend (sp). I had mentioned not to go to bed for a couple hours after using, but it's ok if it's the second time you smoked in a night. I don't know why that is. If you try to go straight to bed after medicating the first time, your mind will be too active, I've found. If I smoke a second time, it just knocks me out.

Also, I tried to accept your friend invite, but it doesn't seem to be working? Probably operator error (me).

Lefthanded - "I am deeply troubled that anyone would encourage this kind of abuse of the law. To me it is no different than faking pain to get a prescription for pain medication . . . it is fraud."

A couple of things... I never encouraged anyone to do anything. Another thing is perspective. In California, pot has been decriminalized. It's a $50 ticket, which is less than any moving violation in a car. My son decided it's worth $50 to have protection while doing what he was going to do anyway and to be able to buy from a legitimate source. I'm just happy he doesn't care much for alchohol. I think the best line I ever heard about marijuana being a gate-way drug was a person who said it was a gateway drug because it had to be purchased illegallly from drug dealers who tend to sell other drugs as well.
The dr. gave my son the precription. The dr asked what his ailment was and he told him he sometimes got anxious (not a lie), but I assume everyone sometimes gets anxious.

It upsets me to think any doctor would allow this. I know of doctors who lost their license for writing prescriptions for any medication where they should not. This is a misuse of power. I would not want such a dishonest doctor. I also want a doctor who would not be influenced by Big Pharma either. I demand this. This has nothing to do with being cool or fooling "the man", this is grown-up and part of reality.

I also think America is becoming a nation of over-prescribed drugs, yet not monitored. People think there's a pill for what-ever ails you. Anti-depessents are prescribed and handed out like candy. This is serious stuff. OK, getting off my soapbox now.

I have been waiting a very long time to see a post like this...

It makes my heart smile to see the approach you are taking.

Medical Cannabis has been proven to heal Multiple Sclerosis in rat models.

I'll break down some knowledge for you..

All mammals have what is called an "Endocannabinoid System". We have receptors in our brain (CB1 and CB2) that recognize the cannabinoids. We actually produce cannabinoids, but they have found that people with auto-immune diseases have a malfunctioning Endocannabinoid system. SO WE are technically LACKING these cannabinoids, so you will find, when you put them in your body, that it feels like your insides become normal like again.

I have been trying to find a study for this to be a rat model for them because I have researched this plant up and down.

THREE MAIN CANNABINOIDS THAT HEAL MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS:
1.CBD (Cannabidiol)
2. CBN (Cannabiniol)
3. THC (Tetrahydrocannibinol)

The research done on these three cannabinoids is beautiful.. this is what they have found as a SCIENTIFIC FACT...

In the rats that had 'MS' they injected those three main cannabinoids into the rats bodies..

Doing so they found that the cannabinoids were stimulating Astrocytes in the brain, when Astrocytes are stimulated they create MYELIN in DE-MYELINATED areas of the CNS!!!!

YUP thats right folks. Documented evidence.


I've tried this and it works. I don't get euphoric like at all, it literally makes my insides feel like what they did before ms. It stops my neuropathy immediately, calms the spasticity and spasms, makes my tremors stop, and has even helped with walking.

I wish you the best of luck, please keep us updated! I'm very excited for you!! :hug:

Yeah, they are know as 'pot-docs' informally and will prescribe to most people that claim a need. The other way to look at it - noone has ever died from marijuana and it does help many people with a variety of conditions.

Devil's advocate - you find you cant get to sleep at night and become worn out. You go to your regular doctor and he writes an rx for sleeping pills (may cause dizzyness, suicidal thoughts, liver damage, rapid heartbeat, dependacy, etc etc etc). Go to a pot doc, he rx's marijuana (may cause dry mouth, munchies, laughter.) Which doctor has put the patient at greatest risk? They both are trying to help their patient.

Next step - California almost passed a law to make it legal for everyone in 2010. A big donor came in and bankrolled a smear campaign and stopped the passage. Who was the donor? The alcohol industry. Now people still need an rx for the product. Who really decided that you can't go to the supermarket and buy mj to help them sleep? The alcohol industry that sells a product that kills people every minute of every day. Noone holds them responsible, yet the pot docs that are issuing rx's for the safest drug you can take (including aspirin) take the heat?

And I totally forgot to mention the strains.

Like Sandy said for Jim, Blue Dream does wonders and has a lovely taste if you vap. It seems white strains work best for pain, spasticity/spasms.
=)

this is a test

This is also a test

Sorry about the 'tests'. I had to have 10 posts before the system lets me post a link. Here's a list that has different strains and conditions that they may help with...

http://a2420.com/medical-marijuana/m...ailment-guide/

I had a rough night last night despite self medicating twice.

There may be two different reasons, one related to the vaporizer and one non related.

first, the non - I was bitten by something about five days ago. Thought I was just having a reaction to a mosquito bite but it has not healed, red angry large swollen area on my abdomen. An ER doctor lives nearby. He was going to come over but he most have gotten busy. I will call him again today and have him drop by.

It is nice to have a neighbor doctor who will make a house call and not charge. I will give him a bread (as most of you know, I make breads and people buy them, some for over ten years now.)

The second may be vaporizer related. The first time I vaped, I noticed it much more than the last two times. What was the difference? I did not break up as much of the bud and DH takes what was not used and puts it back in the grounded container.

So some of the brown used goes in with the good. I am thinking out with the old and only using fresh each time.

But tonight I am going to try the edible brownie instead of vaping. I will be starting with 1/4 because it is more potent so less is a good starting point. I will just get ready for bed early so that I can handle a negative response.

There is an upside to an overstone. It may make me miserable to cannabis does not kill, even if it is unpleasant. The only time I had an overstone, I knew in the back of my head that it was better than drinking too much alcohol. I would much rather lie in bed than moan over a toilet.

oh I forgot to add. It has been very good for the ms hug each time. No more baclofen.

I will keep this up for another 10 days before eliminating another pharmaceutical. If it proves that I do not need chemicals, I would prefer MMJ.

As long as I am not impaired mentally and it helps physically, seems like a good treatment for MS symptoms.

And if I can do it quickly by vaping or deliciously with a brownie, it will be good for my lifestyle.

And if it is a mood changer in a positive way? not a minus:). DH and I love a good glass of red wine. I like a fruity margarita or a coffee and kahlua every once in a while. Alcohol is not a gateway drug for me.:)

Cyn, Good Luck with this new venture. I am amazed at the posts! This is all new to me. :hug:

I have been using the vaporizer for eleven days.

I take two draws around 6PM and another two draws as I am getting ready for bed around 10:30PM.

During the day, the MS hug is bearable. Nighttime, just sitting, the hug, the jerks and the pain are helped by cannabis. It will be interesting to try various strains to see what effect each has on my symptoms.

It kinds reminds me of trying different teas, black tea, raspberry tea, green tea. It is really the same mentality.

I am no longer afraid of an overstone. Once I wrapped my head around the fact that no one has died from too much, it was easy to medicate without fear. And using a vaporizer for consecutive days also gives me confidence.

It is the same kind of thing that I get from prescription drugs in terms of side effects. Initially, I think I feel a change. It is not this big mind blowing over the top effect.

I was given a surprise of a bunch of special brownies and a tub of cannabutter. The brownies do not taste very good. Not really chocolate and not really MJ. The results are harder to detect because I do not eat a brownie on an empty stomach so the time factor is an issue. Then there is a bed sleeping issue too where maybe the strongest effects is only in my dreams.

"It is the same kind of thing that I get from prescription drugs in terms of side effects. Initially, I think I feel a change. It is not this big mind blowing over the top effect."


I'm glad you posted an update. What do you mean about the side effects? Are you referring to the morning after, or after medicating?

I was talking about the side effects of various medications I have tried in terms of symptoms for MS.

side effect(s) of:

Baclofen - muscle weakness, stiffness
Aminopiridine - constipation
Neurontin/Gabapenten - weight gain

I am sure there are more possible side effects for the above pharmaceutical medicines.

With all of the medications I referenced, when asked if they make a difference all I can say is, "I think it is making a difference. I am conservative with the cannabis. If I think I feel something, I do not draw another breath from the tube.

I have backed off of two, baclofen and gabapentin. I am substituting MMJ in place of baclofen and I am going to see about taking out more prescription drugs.

The less I pay to Big Pharma, the better I like it. I like the idea of medicating with a plant rather than a chemical.

But MMJ has a certain amount of side effect...depends on when/how I use cannabis. Using the vaporizer, the effect is more immediate. I can feel a difference. An indescribable "high" that helps with the spasms but does not make me a blithering idiot. That state of being does not last (approximately 20 minutes. DH and I can carry on conversations and although he is funny, he is NOT THAT FUNNY:D so I do not laugh manically) and although I am still aware of THC in my system, everything is "normal."

At bedtime, it is a relaxing thing. I take Ambien for sleep aid. Maybe MMJ can be the substitute. I just do not want to eliminate all my drugs all at once. There is no hurry.

I was given Turkish Delight and Blackberry Kush. A couple buds of each. Funny thing is that the benefactor did not ask the grower which was which and even though the grower did respond saying Turkish Delight is darker, both look the same.

The director at the cancer clinic had encouraged edibles, the digestive process allows the THC to last in the nervous system longer.

Cindy, your progress reports and information are very very helpfull. Thanks.:hug:

Oh would I love to be able to try this! I'm so glad it's helping some of you :):).

I had know idea about the differences in marijuana strains. Besides the MS, I have major problems with IBS. It seems like this would help me a great deal.


Thanks for all of the info :):).

I never tried MJ and I am from the Hippie Generation. I was too busy being married, more school, working, and having babies.

I still drive so it is not in my future. Also prison time or big fine, and lose my license. Only Lindsey L and other stars get special treatment and they are bad, yet we get worse penalties. :confused:

So I'll just read your stories of the study you are in. It is very interesting. I never knew there was more than one kind of MJ and you ate it or smoked it.

I lead a sheltered life. I got married when I turned 18 years old. :)

Lady, your story mirrors my own mother's. Married at 20 during the 'hippie days', she never drank more than 1 glass of wine in a sitting, and never smoked a thing (or ate anything with marijuana - for that matter).

I came 'clean' to Mom soon after my diagnosis with MS and admitted that I had smoked pot as a teenager, and in my early 20s. She wasn't surprised, or mad, and it was actually Mom who encouraged me to talk to my neurologist about getting a prescription for marijuana after she had read Montel William's book (soon after she learned I had MS).

Mom is still pro-pot today, as is (thankfully) my family and extended family as a whole. A distant relative is SPMS (he actually traveled abroad for CCSVI - I'm not sure how he's doing after the fact though) but he also medicates with medical marijuana and that's the 1 thing that's helped him (in pain and bedridden).

Using cannabis as part of a medication regimen has not been as radical as I expected. I think the one overstone was really what was driving my fear.

I am going to try to take the time to get information about each variety I try, see how much is an indica or a sativa.

But for this entry, I am just going to notate the names and look for better information when I have time and inclination.

Master Kush/Turkish Delight/Blackberry Kush.

Of the three, the most helpful has been Master Kush. I would love to try the varieties specifically for the cannibis designated for MS.

I did not like Turkish Delight. It put me on edge. It reminded me of when I tried Requip for my leg spasms. Exact same body experience.

Funny thing is that I actually feel guilty about throwing it away! I wish I knew someone to affect a trade!

There is a political game going on in AZ and the dispensaries have been put on hold. DH and I are going to Denver over 4th of July. I cannot take MMJ across state lines but while in Colorado, I am hoping to be allowed to see the inside of an actual dispensary. It is very strict there but since I have an AZ MMJ card, I may be able to go inside the actual place.

But that is not why we are going to Colorado!:)

And two more pieces of information I am learning about...

I am vaping at about 6-7 PM. Then at night, one draw and 1/2 brownie. My reasoning is that the effect of the THC digesting will help sleep. The vaping is for a short relief.

Then there is kief (pronounced Keef). When I use the grinder, I get a small residue that is caught in a separate screen container. It is a higher concentration of THC. I think I can best relate it to eating an artichoke, there is a small part of meat on the leaf and then there is the artichoke heart.

Kief = hash? Or is the best way to make cannabutter?

I don't know. Not much in the container so I have plenty of time to figure out how to make the most of it.

Hi,

Kief is just like hash. It's a more potent medication than mj. You can however smoke more mj and have the same effect.

I was going to suggest blending the Turkish Delight with another strain, but it may still not be to your liking. Edibles before bed are a good idea for sleep. If you eat it right before you got to bed, it still wont kick in for an hour or two and should help prolong your sleep.

I was just reading an article about traveling with mmj. If your going straight from Arizona with an Arizona card to another legal state, I think you'll be ok. Google "crossing state lines with mmj" or something like that.

We are back from an amazing vacation to Colorado for the 4th of July holiday.

We visited a dispensary. Actually, just the outer room but we had a long interesting talk with the guy running the shop.

I have more to share, maybe tomorrow. I just wanted to bump this up so it is easier to find in the next couple days.

DH and I spent a wonderful vacation in Colorado. It was nice to get out of the house and visit Denver. We were given a couple days stay in Glenwood Springs.

I could elaborate but I will refrain!:)

Lots of dispensaries in Denver but we did not take the time to go into any particular business.

But in Glenwood Springs, I was told about two dispensaries and we had time to seek one out and try unsuccessfully to go inside the inner door. As of July 1, new rules made it much more strict as to access to MMJ, a camera had been installed to assure no violations. I was not allowed to simply look inside and see the set up of this dispensary.

No problem. My benefactor had given me edibles, cookies and a brownie since I could not take my MMJ over state lines from AZ to CO. Plus a stranger gave me the best chocolate/mint candy/cookie. Long story how that came about and I want to protect the innocent by not mentioning details!

Back to the dispensary. Green Natural Solutions. http://www.gnsexpectthebest.com/Home_Page.php

If you go to this link, you can see inside.

DH and I spoke at length to Mo. He was extremely knowledgeable.

I will go into a few things I learned in the next few posts as I am able to recall...I just wanted to post GNS so you could see the inside of this dispensary.:)

Glenwood Springs CO conversation with Mo was interesting. It was a Sunday with no one coming in off the street so DH, Mo and I talked for over an hour.

He prefers MJ grown in soil, rather than hydroponics. There are many dispensaries in CO but no "controls" in that what is sold at a dispensary is not necessarily the actual variety, i.e. Trainwreck or Sour Diesel. Cannabis is often cross-breeded accidentally.

He has plenty of patients who come to him to verify the variety. He grows and sells, he has a green thumb from the way he talked about the process.

He has two regular MS patients, both use Sour Diesel. 90% Sativa/10% Indica. I know that a few NT people have recommended it. I have seen it on the MJ medical chart web pages. It also helps with incontinence.

Edibles. He said to try the lollypops, tinctures. Why? Controlling the dosage and time elapse before effect. Made sense in that biologically, the THC will enter the system faster orally than digested and one can decide what amount is enough.

Baking. We have cannabutter and DH bought the "wrong" brownie mixture. He actually bought muffin mix. We baked anyway. For the future, when we have enough with which to experiment, Mo said to bake the buds a little then add the butter and simmer. The slight baking will enhance the THC and mean I can ingest less...eating sweets are not exactly a way to control gaining weight.:)

Does that stuff make you lose your taste for Trivia??:D:p

ha! Certainly won't make me smarter!

And I played yesterday and won! A rare occurrence!

I saw that..:yahoo:

Thanks for the update and review of your first visit to a dispensary. Funny little places aren't they? Too bad they wouldn't let you go into the dispensing room, but they could be shut down if they did.

It sounds like your host was a good guy to talk to. I have found that the dispensary staff are usually just average-type people trying to run a business.

That's a good idea about tinctures being a good way to regulate dosage. From the edibles you've tried, have they made you feel different than when you vape? I don't care for the edible feel, but a lot of people prefer it. I was talking to a budtender who ate very stong edibles every night to help with her 'night-terrors' (may have been 'sleep-terrors')? Either way, it sounds awful and she said smoking relieved the problem but didn't last through the entire night, but her edibles did.

I was talking to my DD and DSIL about this thread, they are concerned about my MS and medicine, and I found out that my SIL smokes marijuana when he can get it. And he wonders why they have no money for the things n life they need. I totally approve of it for medical use but not for recreational use. Just like my Ritalin, he would use it for his own recreational use if I would give it to him. And he also asks for my Lortab when I have some. He likes how it makes him feel

Q: Which is my preference? Vaporizer or edibles?

I cannot say I like either right now. My lungs are not happy with vaping. I thought my lungs would not have a problem but they feel "wet," very similar to when I used to smoke cigarettes but not as bad. However, I was having difficulty drawing a large lungful of breath before vaping and for a while, my lungs actually expanded and felt improved.

Various varieties have a different taste but so far, everything seems to taste the same. Then again, I am no expert on wine either! A cheap bottle of wine or an expensive one, I am not a good judge.

Edibles. This may be the wrong day to write because I had an overstone last night. I need to NOT listen to DH because he has a tendency to want me to eat more than necessary. I ate a small brownie before dinner to shorten the time between digestion and effect. I should have ingested 1/4 and gone from there.

Having an overstone is unpleasant but no longer the end of the world. We went to the movies to see Bad Teacher. As long as I was just sitting, no problem.

Problem with an overstone for me? I get stiff as a board, quite the opposite of what I expect. Second overstone with the same stiffness. But I know it will pass so I just deal with it.

That is the problem with edibles, not knowing how much to eat from batch to batch. And is the cannabutter made principally with a sativa or indica? That problem may be eliminated once I settle into a particular cannabis and make my own edibles.

I am going to try tinctures. I will have to go to the compassion club for one. Or try a lollipop.

Other than not liking a particular reaction to a certain variety, I am still happy to be a lab rat of my own making.

I feel the same as you...somewhat.:) I don't want my children drinking/smoking cigarettes. I keep a stash Oxycotin in the house. It is left over from breaking my toes. I have not looked at the prescription to see if the pills have expired.

But if it came down to having a choice, I would rather my kids smoke pot rather than drinking or smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes are so expensive now. If one smokes a pack a day, is it really less expensive than marijuana?

I don't know! For anyone reading this who might know how much it cost for MJ and tobacco, I guess how much each are "used" may have an answer?

Well, a pack of cigs is about $5. A gram of mj is $20. If a gram lasts me a week (it does) than it's cheaper than cigs. So it's also cheaper than alcohol.

I'm with you. I have 2 grown sons and when growing up, I hoped if they chose to do something, it would be weed. No fighting, no alcohol poisoning, no drunk driving, no dangerous sex, etc.

Living in California and spending half a century (geez) observing things - I really dislike alcohol and what it can do to people. The only real problem in my mind is the left-over stigma associated with mj among people who don't know anything about it. There are still people who feel better taking oxy's or morphine from a dr. than smoking mj, although the statistical data on the danger of the pills is off the charts and the mj danger isn't even on the charts. (Of course there are many that need the stronger drugs).

Kids shouldn't smoke mj of course, but given the choice of a kid 'experimenting', I vote mj.

I have been putting off the next elimination of a drug to see if the MMJ has been effective with helping me go to sleep. I take Ambien and it has been great to just close my eyes and wham! no problem.

This last batch of brownies has been strong so I have only eaten 1/2 of a small square (approximately 1/2" x 1") for sleep. I am going to eliminate the Ambien tonight and see how long it takes to take effect. I will eat the brownie earlier in the evening, at about 9:30 PM. If I need more, I will vape for an immediate effect.

I am pleased that the meager amount of cannabis I have purchased has gone a long way. Then again, my benefactor has been a good part of why it has cost me so little money.

My hope is to find a variety that has a body effect and no mind effect. Not sure if that is possible.

I am still trying to get the hang of vaping. DS said I have heated the cannabis too much and that is why my lungs are not happy. He said there should be no smoke when I exhale...at all.

The study does not start until August/September. The seeds purchased on my behalf are not ready since it has only been since June and plants do not flower for a few months.

I may visit the local compassion club again just to see if they have varieties available that are supposedly for MS. However, I will have to call first since the governor of AZ has made it difficult for dispensaries to start.

I'm certain you'll find a strain that gives a 'body buzz' versus the head fuzzies. That's what hash does for me. Most strains of MJ make me either head-loopy or paranoid (neither a good thing), but some did give the relaxing, calming body buzz, so they're out there.

I think MJ is much like anything else, each person responds differently to different strains.

My synthetic THC (capsules) give me only the body buzz, and even then that was only when I began the medication. I'm used to the euphoric side effects of the medication now, so I don't get that 'buzz' feeling.

By the way, the pills (synthetic) are dreadfully expensive, and are a far cry from being as helpful at the plant itself.

I wish my insurance covered Sativex. Grrrrrr.... :(

Last night was a disaster. It felt like I was awake all night.

Something tells me I am addicted to Ambien.

So what to do tonight. I had eaten a whole brownie last night and had a terrible body buzz. My entire body tensed up and even my ears had a titinitus hum. Every once in a while, my body would relax. I find it ironic that my expectation was that cannabis makes a person melt but so far, I have not experienced this.

So what to do tonight. Do I reduce the brownie amount and try again to deal with a potential sleepless night because I am trying to break the need for Ambien?

Do I take an Ambien and get a night's sleep and try again another day?

Maybe I will cut the brownie dose in half, cut the Ambien in half.

i know I am strong enough to break the Ambien addiction because I was able to break my nicotine addiction.

Just as with cigarettes, I have to be willing to be uncomfortable. That is the most difficult mental obstacle, the willingness.

All those of you that are/were addicted to anything know what I mean.

I do know what you mean Aarcyn, going from a 2 pack a day smoker to cold turkey, and dealing with the side effects. You're right, if you were able to quit smoking, you can definitely quit Ambien.

With that said, I am not familiar with Ambien, but it sounds like you may need to 'taper' off, rather than abandon completely right away.

I'd ask your GP, neuro, pharma... whoever may be able to answer questions about Ambien dependency and stopping the medication.

DH and I took the short drive into Phoenix to visit the compassion club which acts as a rudimentary dispensary to buy whatever cannabis buds are available. Edibles, candies, tinctures, sodas are all on the list of things to try.

I had just finished baking breads so I took along a fresh loaf to offer as a trade.

There was a choice of two...Double Dream, a sativa and Purple Kush, an indica. For my "donation," I chose a small amount of Double Dream to see how a sativa affected my sx's and a larger amount of Purple Kush that will help with the insomnia plaguing me during the hot summer nights.

The young man who helped me was named Carlos. As I sat down to talk, I got out my bartered bread and urged him to tear off a piece and sample taste.

First question was whether the loaf was medicated.

The bread works a certain amount of magic;) without any additional ingredients. He said he was not able to make a trade but when I suggested he make the gram measurements "happy," he was more than compliant.

I also procured a strawberry/banana lollipop.

As I was preparing to leave his office, the young boss came in and Carlos immediately told him about my attempt to use my bread as a trade.

The boss asked if it was medicated.

And upon a small taste, he asked me if I wanted a granola bar edible. There is a gram of cannabis in a square measuring about 1 1/2" x 2".

The cost of my bread is about $6 retail and the bar is about $10 or $15 so it was a good trade.

I tried the granola bar last night. I cut off 1/3 and ate before getting into bed. I felt a small effect but by 1 AM, I had to give in:( and used the vaporizer for a couple draws in order to create the mindset I need for sleep.

I will try a larger amount of the granola bar tonight.

Ingredients: granola, peanuts, cashews, almonds, oats, raisins, cranberries, white yogurt chips, cannabis, honey, brown sugar, Tahitian vanilla.

It tasted very good. No green tinge.

one more thing...

When I attended a meeting about the locations of dispensaries, the big objection is having cannabis stores located near ANYTHING!

The ultimate irony is that there is a drive-through liquor store in one of the strip malls...

The Compassion Club has a storefront sign. It is not high profile. The place is located along a road where houses have been converted into small businesses. The area is surrounded by homes, a church, a children's facility, chain restaurants.

The fear that teenagers will be roaming the area waiting to break in to rob everyone is just plain silly. There are no drug addicts looking to score.

I see young entrepreneurs running these initial shops. My guess is that in about 10-20 years, these young adults will own the fancy houses up on the mountains above my own.

A drive thru liquor store??!! Now that sounds like a great idea...

I look forward to the day when the people who make the laws in my state get the boards out of their arses and pass the cannabis bill so I'm not buying & inhaling whatever I can get my hands on. I hate the mind effects of the stuff I'm using, which makes me not use it, when in fact it helps quickly and completely to reduce the Sxs that reg meds don't help.

Until then I wait and feel jealous of those like you who can be informed consumers.

That sounds DELICIOUS, medicated or not! :o