advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-2012, 10:48 PM #1
KittyLady's Avatar
KittyLady KittyLady is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Indiana
Posts: 430
10 yr Member
KittyLady KittyLady is offline
Member
KittyLady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Indiana
Posts: 430
10 yr Member
Default RRMS vs ... Does it really have to be? (vent)

I was involved in a MS support group, and there was alot of RRMS bashers there. Someone even said that RRMSers dont really know MS, and yet all the meds out there were for RRMS, and why were RRMSers so special!!

I dont think its right that those who are not RR should try to make us that are feel guilty about it. We cant control this disease, or who gets it or the severity of it. And we certainly DO know what MS is like. Im not the one in charge of the science behind the dmd's.

I personally would love to know that there are dmd's for spms, ppms, etc. Now, Im not saying all those who are not rrms feel this way. But out of the last 2 support groups Ive been to, this was the general thinking.

We are all in the same boat. Some have been in the boat longer and have been exposed to the "elements" more. I personally would never want to "attack" a fellow MSer. Why turn on each other?
KittyLady is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ANNagain (04-26-2012), barb02 (04-26-2012), Dejibo (04-26-2012), Desinie (04-26-2012), dmplaura (05-06-2012), hollym (05-10-2012), Natalie8 (05-09-2012), new2net98 (04-26-2012), SallyC (04-25-2012), Shadiyah (04-27-2012)

advertisement
Old 04-26-2012, 12:22 AM #2
new2net98's Avatar
new2net98 new2net98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Yooperland...somehow we all live in peace up here.
Posts: 171
10 yr Member
new2net98 new2net98 is offline
Member
new2net98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Yooperland...somehow we all live in peace up here.
Posts: 171
10 yr Member
Smirk

Quote:
Originally Posted by KittyLady View Post
I was involved in a MS support group, and there was alot of RRMS bashers there. Someone even said that RRMSers dont really know MS, and yet all the meds out there were for RRMS, and why were RRMSers so special!!

I dont think its right that those who are not RR should try to make us that are feel guilty about it. We cant control this disease, or who gets it or the severity of it. And we certainly DO know what MS is like. Im not the one in charge of the science behind the dmd's.

I personally would love to know that there are dmd's for spms, ppms, etc. Now, Im not saying all those who are not rrms feel this way. But out of the last 2 support groups Ive been to, this was the general thinking.

We are all in the same boat. Some have been in the boat longer and have been exposed to the "elements" more. I personally would never want to "attack" a fellow MSer. Why turn on each other?
Unfortunately, it is seeping into every corner of our society; people seem to think that if one group gets more attention, then THEIR group gets less. It's not the case, most times, the ones with the most attention, get the ball rolling further & faster. That can be viewed as good for all.

Sometimes it's just about the attention...and THOSE people are never happy. Even when they get the attention.

KittyLady, just let it roll off your back. You can't make some people happy. And nobody is happy about MS (unless you consider the bean counters at hospitals & drug companies).
__________________
It isn't a quest; it's the unknown reaction to the unaswered question. If you don't ask it, you'll never know. The journey, needs answers.
.
new2net98 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
barb02 (04-26-2012), Blessings2You (04-26-2012), Dejibo (04-26-2012), dmplaura (05-06-2012), Mariel (05-01-2012), mochagirl13 (04-26-2012), SallyC (04-26-2012)
Old 04-26-2012, 06:13 AM #3
Dejibo's Avatar
Dejibo Dejibo is offline
Elder
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 7,332
15 yr Member
Dejibo Dejibo is offline
Elder
Dejibo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 7,332
15 yr Member
Default

some of us have blue eyes, some have green. its a roll of the genetic dice. Im so sorry that you got the dirty end of the stick on this disease, and that you suffer, but the severity of your suffering does not negate the validity of mine. Im planning on looking good, and doing as many things as I can and fooling the neighbors into thinking "but she looks so great" for as long as I can.

Wish them well. send them on their way. If they disrupt the meeting, or are "flaming or causing you to feel like you dont want to go back cause someone is being mean...tell the co ordinator." snitch um out.
__________________
RRMS 3/26/07
.

Betaseron 5/18/07
.

Elevated LFTs Beta DC 7/07
Copaxone 8/7/07
.



.
Dejibo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
barb02 (04-26-2012), dmplaura (05-06-2012), Mariel (05-01-2012), mochagirl13 (04-26-2012), SallyC (04-26-2012)
Old 04-26-2012, 10:15 AM #4
ANNagain ANNagain is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Boston
Posts: 1,105
10 yr Member
ANNagain ANNagain is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Boston
Posts: 1,105
10 yr Member
Default

Here's the thing w the DMD's and the RRMS: The companies that make the drugs need a definable outcome. They need people w records that say they had, for instance, 3 exacerbations last year and 1 on their drug.

It's harder to get those definable results in chronic progressive or 2nd progressive.

Many of us who haven't had an exacerbation in many years are getting them anyway, I believe.

Those "support group" members should take their complaints to the drug companies and those that fund studies rather than to other MS'ers.

JMO,
ANN
ANNagain is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
barb02 (04-26-2012), dmplaura (05-06-2012), KittyLady (04-26-2012), Mariel (05-01-2012), misshayleesmom (04-26-2012), mochagirl13 (04-26-2012), SallyC (04-26-2012)
Old 04-26-2012, 12:16 PM #5
SallyC's Avatar
SallyC SallyC is offline
In Remembrance
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 17,844
15 yr Member
SallyC SallyC is offline
In Remembrance
SallyC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 17,844
15 yr Member
Default

I had an opposite experience.

I went to an MS meeting for only light MSers. They didn't want the wheelchair or scooter bound in there, to scare the newbys...Can you imagine the audacity??

Even though I was light RRMS at the time, I never went back.. What would they do, throw you out if you got worse.

We are all MSers at different places in our disease, we're not babies and we need each other.
__________________
~Love, Sally
.





"The best way out is always through". Robert Frost



~If The World Didn't Suck, We Would All Fall Off~

Last edited by SallyC; 04-26-2012 at 01:18 PM.
SallyC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ANNagain (04-26-2012), barb02 (04-26-2012), dmplaura (05-06-2012), Jules A (04-26-2012), KittyLady (04-26-2012), Mariel (05-01-2012), Natalie8 (05-09-2012)
Old 04-26-2012, 02:15 PM #6
Debbie D's Avatar
Debbie D Debbie D is offline
Elder
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Naperville IL
Posts: 5,169
15 yr Member
Debbie D Debbie D is offline
Elder
Debbie D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Naperville IL
Posts: 5,169
15 yr Member
Default

Wow...I find this puzzling at best, and obnoxious at worst... It's like going to Weight Watchers and being jealous of those who lost 5 lbs that week and you didn't lose any...

Reminds me why I don't seem to like support groups..

I thought that once you went into spms, the meds can't help the detereoration of the neurons...hmmm.
__________________
Instant Karma's gonna get you-gonna knock you right in the head...John Lennon
Debbie D is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ANNagain (04-26-2012), KittyLady (05-01-2012), SallyC (04-26-2012)
Old 04-26-2012, 02:47 PM #7
EricP EricP is offline
----
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 240
10 yr Member
EricP EricP is offline
----
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 240
10 yr Member
Default

It's the same as a quadplegic saying a paraplegic should be thankful, at least they can use their arms and hands, be independent, In a way I agree, but it is stupid to outright feel "more special" just because you are worse shape.

Granted a Paraplegic and a person with RRMS may be "luckier" that is it...just luckier than someone that is a quad or has progressive MS. To sit there and classify us with RRMS as not really having MS is a crock....I'd stay away from them becaus eit would hurt to hear that.
EricP is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ANNagain (04-26-2012), KittyLady (04-26-2012), SallyC (04-26-2012)
Old 04-26-2012, 02:51 PM #8
EricP EricP is offline
----
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 240
10 yr Member
EricP EricP is offline
----
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 240
10 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyC View Post
I had an opposite experience. They didn't want the wheelchair or scooter bound in there, to scare the newbys...Can you imagine the audacity??

I would of showed up with a wheelchair, all kinds of braces, a bib around my neck, pee bag and a colostomy bag on my side lol....BWAAAAAAAA


Of course I would of took it all off and said "Gotcha!!!
EricP is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
mochagirl13 (05-01-2012), SallyC (04-26-2012)
Old 04-26-2012, 07:39 PM #9
Jules A Jules A is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,424
15 yr Member
Jules A Jules A is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,424
15 yr Member
Default

While I don't think it is nice to make anyone feel unwelcome especially at a support group I would try to be generous to those with PPMS.

You may remember Brenda B from another board. We were both diagnosed at the same age, same month and joined the message board at the same time. Sadly MS robbed her of her life very quickly. Within a few years she had to attend adult day care and she disappeared from cyber space. In the same years I was blessed to be able to continue working full time and attend school full time as I carved out a more MS friendly career.

It is the luck of the draw but my heart goes out to all of those who weren't as "lucky" as I have been. My God I hate this disease no matter what subtype.
__________________
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
Anonymous
Jules A is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Blessings2You (04-27-2012), dmplaura (05-06-2012), Jomar (04-26-2012), Kitty (04-26-2012), Mariel (05-01-2012), SallyC (04-26-2012)
Old 05-01-2012, 01:08 PM #10
Mariel Mariel is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 724
15 yr Member
Mariel Mariel is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 724
15 yr Member
Default

When I was in an area where I could go to a support group, they were all good. They were nice to everyone and didn't complain at anyone for anything. Wow! So I just remembered a good thing in my past, to put with all the bad memories of what illness did to me.
And Annagain, I could regale you with a similar tale about how drug companies and research firms try to categorize people with Porphyria (another disease I have). Those who have milder forms on tests (who actually may suffer a lot of chronic misery) are not even accepted by some authorities as "having" the disease at all. This makes for very difficult dx and access to treatment. Usually those in this Porph limbo eventually get a dx unless they just give up and accept chronic disability without a name. And I expect it's true in MS too, some people are having exacerbations which are not formally treated as such.
I have had MS exacerbations which I recognized, and treated myself, with the advice of Dr. Swank--get back on the diet, rest more, do not push beyond your capacity, rest your eyes a lot. I didn't even go to a doctor about these.
Mariel is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
SallyC (05-01-2012)
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New here with TM & RRMS Sugar and Spice Multiple Sclerosis 19 09-30-2013 10:57 AM
RRMS to SPMS how did you get there? Dejibo Multiple Sclerosis 29 04-07-2010 08:32 AM
When does RRMS become SPMS? dmplaura Multiple Sclerosis 16 10-25-2009 07:18 PM
RRMS and having more than one child jacksonsmommy Multiple Sclerosis 4 01-31-2009 10:03 AM
does RRMS always become SPMS? Rissa_TX Multiple Sclerosis 8 05-25-2008 02:19 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:17 PM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.