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Old 05-24-2015, 11:13 PM #1
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Anyone know or read Ann Boroch's works:

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Ann Boroch, expert on candida, multiple sclerosis, and health, shows how fatigue, allergies, depression, arthritis, immune issues and more can be healed with ...


My sister has MS and first got a "possible" dx when she was about 23, then her symptoms I believe went into a remission for 20some yrs. She went on to work work work, high stress, int'l travel so burned herself out, and confessed once to me she was addicted to sugars/carbs.

When the MS symptoms started to really come on strong, I pleaded with her to come to L.A. to meet/talk with Ann Boroch, my sister did have a 2 hr some meeting with her, left with one of Ann's original manuals, this was before she wrote the books she now has on the market.

But, my sister went back to her home and as I gathered over years did NOT follow the nutrition Ann taught. My sis went to all the MS doctors and did every imaginable drug, injections, infusions and today I feel like I've lost my sister. She has lost her talking ability and as I understand from our brother she cannot feed herself. Her husband is her caregiver and I believe they have someone come in to help out with her care.

I have shed my tears but so often wonder IF she had followed Ann's rules on nutrition, would she be in better condition today.

Would appreciate hearing from any of you folks here.

I have my own issues and cannot travel to the EC or travel anywhere anymore, so I have not seen my sister in too many years....now we can hardly talk to each other...very very sad. -

Oh, I told her about LDN about 8 yrs ago as I was trying it for arthritis and hoped it would help me from doing a hip replacement, it didn't help me, but in learning about LDN I found a lot of info on it helping with MS. My sister did NOT hear me on the LDN...

But, when I told a friend here who deals with MS as well about LDN, my friend got on LDN and it's helped her a lot over the years. My friend does fairly well and I reminded her recently about the sugar/carb issue.
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Just reading thru some of the reviews on Ann's latest book and here is one:


*Copyright © 2014 Ann Boroch CNC All rights reserved. Disclaimer*


It's true that foods can kill and foods can heal. It's so true too, it's all coming out that this low fat, non fat craze was so wrong. We need good fats. Weston Price has said this for decades, his foundation goes on in his name. Personally, I never bought into that craze.

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I have no investment in Ann Boroch, but did meet her some yrs ago when I got my sister out to the West Coast to meet with her. I don't remember the exact year, but maybe 10 yrs ago or more. Ann told my sister she healed her own MS.... Here is Ann's story:
Pretty amazing, I say.


[Meet 'Ann Boroch' & Learn How She Cured Herself of Multiple Sclerosis, Naturally!
Ann Boroch is a Certified Nutritional Consultant, Naturopath, Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, Certified Iridologist, Educator, Author, and Inspirational Speaker. She is a graduate of the International Society of Naturopathy, the Holmes Center for Hypnotherapy, the American Association of Nutritional Consultants, and Bernard Jensen's International Iridology Practitioners Association.] www.AnnBoroch.com


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Thanks Jo, I don't understand all the sticky stuff and I'll just muddle thru as I do, I didn't even look for the copyright info on the info I posted....my bad... I'll try to remember to snip.

Anyway, after reading more about Ann's story, I can't help think that MS can be healed to a a huge degree. Reading some more comments from those reading her book, talk about how the drugs all make things worse....I have to agree there. For the most part.
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Just giving my thoughts here. I think it's great that there are some people who have been helped by Ann. However, before you lament too much over your sister not following her guide to 'healing', try to understand that many a time things like this cause a placebo effect and not everyone will be 'healed' by it.

Diet and exercise does play a HUGE role in our health, be you a sufferer of MS or a perfectly healthy individual. But for the same token there are far too many variables with in the human genome and environment to suggest one can be 'healed' or 'cured' strictly through diet and positive thinking.

Your sister admitted to a sugar addiction, sugar is (granted not well) known for being an all-natural pain reliever, which might be why your sister became addicted. It's also an emotion booster (happiness in a crystal), and quick and easily absorbed energy. Though the energy boost does come with a crash, sugar has a far more gentle effect on emotional highs than anti-depressants, as well as a gentler off coming than 'traditional' pain relievers.

It's more a wonder that people with MS and similar disorders aren't knocking over Pixi-Stix vendors . As sugar alliviates the majority of our symptoms. But at the same time we all know we can't eat nothing but sugar. And cutting it out (which even the worst diabet still can't do and isn't told to do so by their doctors and nutritionalist) isn't possible either. The body needs sugar, needs fat, needs cholesterol....

So the question starts to become how much of those is "healthy".... Now we're back to spinning our wheels once more, because what might be "healthy" for me, could give some else a heart attack, and still yet starve someone else.

My chelostrol is low, total doesn't even add up to 100, back when I could exercise far more, I was lucky (gorging myself on eggs) if I could get it my total to add up to 50. My iron on the other hand is through the roof, I barely take in any iron, I have to not only completely avoid any fortified foods, but also avoid any iron rich foods, or I get iron poisoning, a multivitamin containing iron sends me to the ER as my body seizes while vomiting blood.

A 2 hour session with someone whose going to 'heal' me through my diet.... Eh.... Maybe if they take tons of blood work, and are registered dietitians that have a doctorate in medical science as well. I have a hard enough time just dealing with my neurologist and family doctor when they tell me what I should and shouldn't eat. The neuro tells me to avoid something and I do, and my family doctor (when I'm going in to see them for the aftermath of following the neuros orders) tells me I was a fool for doing it and I'm lucky I didn't kill myself.

Those are just a few of the hoops I have to jump through in figuring out what to eat, staying and living in the south east, throw me back home to NH for more than a week and the game changes yet again, do it in the winter time and well that's a whole new ball of wax. Winter in NH means an increase in iron (can even take a vitamin with iron), tons more calories, and enough chelostrol to stop the heart of a bull moose! Summertime there means "NO" iron except trace amounts, salt and sugar becomes special treats.

Even splitting the difference and going to OH there's yet another curveball to my dietary needs.

So no I can't obtain a 'diet' or exercise regime from a book, I can't get it through a self-help seminar, and highly doubt I could from a 2 hour one on one. Her 'plan' may work for many people, but it will not work for all people. Like the paleo diet, and even all the numerous pharmaceuticals out there.

Sorry for the length of this post, and I do hope your sister will find something which helps her. She just might have figured out early on that this particular program wasn't going to be it for her.
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Thank you for your comments. I know in my long life, sugar has been a killer. A mouthful of dental work, and body full of OA...we were raised on a lot of sugar as back in my mom's days there was none of the info we have today.

I feel sad as I see where my sister is today after so many years of EXPENSIVE drugs that were to "slow down" the progression, and she is worse off and can no longer talk well and feed herself and hasn't walked in years. I think she may be getting new occupational therapy now as her voice was a little bit stronger/clearer on her last message to me on the phone.

I see some with MS who seem to do pretty well considering. My sister's docs kept her in hope of stem cells which never happened.

I've been on the alternative/holistic path for over 25 yrs and at one Weston Price support group meetings, Nancy Appleton spoke, she has written books on the sugar addiction world. Nancy at one point, mentioned how cancer cells thrive in a sugar environment...I've never forgotten that. After hearing that from her I stopped buying the candy bars at the check out register at the markets, etc....they are there calling to us.

We have so many health issues and I am a firm believer that nutrition and what we put in our months are huge contributors.
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Hi caroline2,

Your sister had 20 some odd years of remission. That is awesome! Do you not understand how fortunate she was to have all those years to live the life she wanted?

Those of us with this disease have no guarantees. There are those that are diagnosed and have lived their entire life with a healthy diet and lifestyle, but they still received a diagnosis of Multiple Sclerosis.

Even if someone had an unhealthy lifestyle and made changes that doesn't mean they won't progress or have relapses. Even the treatment for this disease can't give a guarantee.

I have been diagnosed with MS for 30 years with symptoms that started in childhood. I have never used any of the MS treatments and my diet is not always that healthy. I have had 5 relapses in the 30 years of diagnosis. I am not in the condition your sister is.

There is truly no rhyme or reason to this disease. It is completely unpredictable regardless of what we do or don't do.

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Can you send a letter or e-mail? If she is not able to be on the computer or write someone could read what you have written. This may be helpful for both of you. But please, don't bring up the past to her. Simply express your love, compassion and sharing news of your life with her (just a suggestion).

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I'm sure dealing with MS is not just one way issue. My friend here locally was able to go to Dominican Republic years ago for stem cells, at the time it cost her $25K. She takes LDN and I'm not sure about any other drugs or her nutrition. She lived closer but moved away, now we talk now and then on line.

I use Coconut Oil for everything -- cooking, eating tsps, skin care, joint oil in my topical creams I mix up, make my toothpaste with CO and MSM...I love coconut oil. Weston Price is big on CO also. I don't know Ann B's position on CO but there is a lot of info on CO and MS.

Here is one and there are many:

draxe.com/5-natural-treatments-multiple-sclerosis/
ms treatment coconut oil Multiple sclerosis is an autoimmune disease of the central nervous system that can develop at any age. Multiple sclerosis (MS) affects ...
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Snoopy, when my sis lost control of a pen/pencil at about 22, there was no definite dx, one doc said "maybe" MS. Then she did go on to work many years, as I said a high stress job, int'l travel ..

I send her cards and flowers, she never was on the computer, she thought about it, but never did. So, I guess what you are saying she got many good years and then it really hit her probably 15 yrs ago. I would never mention the past with her and her choices.

The last time I saw her was in 2005 and she was using a walker and we worked to bury our dad, me with OA and Fibro and her with MS. Cleaning out his house, selling it, moving him to senior apt and then he gave up at 96. Anyway...lots of history.

So you are saying you never used any of the MS drugs? I remember seeing her map areas of her body and injecting, walking around with infusions and her talking about the expensive drugs....she did them all.
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