Ongoing research by Doctor Stratton of Vanderbilt University has found over 70% of MS patients were infected with the bacterial infection Chlamydia Pneumoniae (Cpn). Not to be confused with the STD.

UK microbiologist Dr David Wheldon has researched Stratton's antibiotic protocol that was created to rid Cpn. Wheldon's wife has SPMS and has been on this protocol for over 2 years. Since being on this Combined Antibiotic Protocol (CAP), her MS has since gone into remission.

I quote from Sarah Wheldon:
http://www.avenues-of-sight.com/Sara...MSpages-2.html

Cpn is a lung infection spread by coughs and sneezes. With some people, because of genetic reasons, this bug in it's spore Elementary Body (EB) form goes past the lungs and enters the blood supply where it is carried, piggyback riding on red blood cells, looking for other cells in the body to infect.

Once it finds a cell it likes, which could be an immune system microphage cell, a muscle, skin, heart, liver, thyroid, brain (it has the capacity to bridge the blood-brain barrier) etc - it enters this cell and change to the intracellular Reticular Body (RB) form. In this form it acts like a parasite, parasitically stealing energy from the cell, by using the cell's mitrochrondria (cell energy factory), it grows and reproduces creating more EB's that it throws out the cell. As the cell is depleted in ATP energy which is created by the mitrochrondria, the cell does not have enough energy to do the job it is programmed to do, giving rise to the fatigue that many people who have MS and other illnesses that Cpn is implicated in.

The Cpn bug is very good at hiding from your immune system. If it detects a threat to it's existence, like antibiotics, it simply converts to it's 3rd form, called the cryptic hibernation form which is also intracellular. In this form, it still continues to steal the cell's energy.

Because it can hide from the immune system very easily (remember, it also infects immune system cells meaning that they are unable to do their job properly), this accounts for the very varied detection rate of this bug in the testing labs.

Dr Stratton has designed a patent for Cpn testing and treatment. Dr David Wheldon also has a protocol based on Stratton's patent. This CAP consists of taking 3 different antibiotics together alongside a supplement called NAC. The reason for taking so many antibiotics, is because each one works for the different stages of the bug, including the cryptic hibernation form.

Cpn can be eliminated, but it does take a long time to eliminate it completely. The protocol can last 2-5 years, with a steady improvement of symptoms. Usually people notice the improvements increase the greatest after a year of being on the CAP.

Bear in mind that all of the above information is very cutting edge, and is mostly unknown by most of the medical establishment. Stratton's research lab at Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tennessee has recently been given further funding. He is to look into the links between Cpn and many chronic illnesses.

He found Cpn infection in 100% of patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome using his patented diagnostic test. There are also links with Alzheimers, Asthma, Rheumatoid Arthritis and many other illnesses. In the control sample studies of healthy people, he found 18-20% Cpn infection, which goes to show how wide spread this bug is.

I am simply putting this information in this forum to point people into a different direction for their own research into their illness. I was pointed into the direction of Cpn, when my partner, who has been bedridden for over 2 years with severe M.E/CFS, was diagnosed with Cpn. She has been on the Wheldon/Stratton CAP since late last year and is showing early, but small improvement in her symptoms.



Mark Hall

Sorry, I forgot to mention - the "CAP" mentioned above stands for Combined Antibiotic Protocol.

Thanks,

Mark

Well done Mark! What we can't see can kill us! There are many bacterial infections, candida, mycoplasma, c.pneumonia, strep that can wreak havoc in our bodies in additional to viral infections like herpes, EBV, HPV.

My experience with neurologists is they are intellectually bankrupt in that they are unable to think out of the box. It is quite disturbing that in 50 years the neuros have been unable to come up with an explanation as to WHY the bodies immune system is attacking our bodies. In the meantime, patients are dying & losing their life at great expense to themselves & extended family. There hasn't been anything done for MS for example, except treat symptoms as they arise at a great human cost in pharmaceutical side affects. Illnesses like MS & ME can be death sentences; there is no candy coating this fact.

My experience in my "road back" from ME is I didn't realize how bad I really was. I have seen this same thing in friends with MS. They have been lulled into a false sense of security. I thank God everyday for my fabulous MD who is treating me with a combined antibiotic protocol. I am about 40% better overall than 2 years ago & I am only 9 months into treatment.

Remember, there was a time when the common belief was the world was flat. Medicine is changing daily; in a couple of decades we will look back & think DUH, doesn't that make sense!!

Perhaps the post Av8rgirl is referring to is on this forum and not on Neurotalk. Interesting reading...

*link removed* in edit

Regardless of why you are here, your information is appreciated and I am sure will be read by a lot of folks here. We are always open to information.

What we are not interested in is people who do not support choice. We are also not interested in personal attacks. This is a support board for people with MS, where we support each others choices, no matter what they choose.

If the Wheldon Protocol works for you, that's wonderful. I am sure you came to your choice after a LOT of thought and reading and discussion. So did everyone here. There may be people here who might benefit from your posts, but many of us have seen you on other boards through the years and remember. Attacking valued members for their choices is NOT the way to enter into or foster discussion.

I don't know anyone who takes sticking a needle in their body or infusing a drug into their body or searching for a solution that works for them lightly. Please don't treat us as if we do. You will get the same consideration if you and your friends try a more respectful approach.

Just out of curiosity, what antibiotics are used in this treatment? Jim has been on antibiotics for five years and he still has ms. He's been on augmentin, cipro, macrobid, gatafloxin, doxycyline, etc. I am not knocking anyone, just curious.

Is there any tests that would show if the CPn infection is involved?
Or do you try the antibiotic protocol and see if it works or not?

I'm thinking that if it's is kind of like Lyme Disease, where you need to do specific tests and maybe more than one time before it is conclusive.
I believe it also requires long term antibiotic protocols for treatment.

just wondering..

SandyC, the Wheldon protocol (which many feel is easier to cope with than the Stratton or Powell protocols, because of CPn die-off and inflamation effects relating to the die-off) consists of the following:-

A) N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) 600mg - 1,200mg twice daily. This is a common supplement that can be bought in any health food shop. It breaks the bonds of the EB spore, causing the extracellular EB form to die of starvation and be swept away by your immune system.
This should be taken continously.

When able to tolerate this,

B) Doxycycline 100mg once daily is added.

When NAC & Doxy are well tolerated,

C) Azithromycin 250mg orally, three times weekly should be added. (Roxithromycin, 150mg twice daily, is an alternative.)

When all three agents are well tolerated,

D) Doxycycline is increased to 200mg daily.

The reason for taking Doxy and Azith (or Roxi) is to ensure that bacterial resistance is impossible when taking the antibiotics on this forum long term. (Of course, you MUST continously take a probiotic, to replace the good bacteria whilst on this protocol)

Doxycycline and Azithromycin (or Roxithromycin) hit the bug in it's intracellular RB form, causing some of the CPn to die, but causing most to convert to the cryptic form.

Finally when all of the above are tolerated well, which you should continue to take constantly to ensure the bug is kept on it's feet, the following should be added,

E) Metronidazole, building up to 100mg twice per day for 5 days every 3 - 4 weeks, eventually increasing to 400mg 3 times per day.

An alternative is building up to 5 day pulses of 500mg Tinidazole twice per day every 3-4 weeks.

Metro and Tini, destroy the intracellular cryptic form, causing a large die-off and inflamation effect, which is why you start off very slowly and only pulse for 5 days every 3-4 weeks to give your body a chance to recover.

Taking Doxy alone will not kill all of the Cpn, but simply force most of it into the cryptic form until the Doxy isn't in the blood anymore, when it will start all over again.

The above antibiotics are pretty cheaply available and mostly generic versions exist. These have been proven by Stratton and others to be the best ones to wipe out Cpn if you have it.

The problem is, that Cpn is a newly discovered bug. It has only been known about for 25 years or so, which accounts for such a lack of knowledge in the medical establishment.

This info comes from

http://www.davidwheldon.co.uk/ms-treatment1.html

I am trying not to step on anyone's toes.

If MS goes into permanent remission from ABX therapy, then it is my opinion, and that of my well respected neurologist, that one never really had an MS diagnosis.

I find it hard to believe that 70% of all people with MS have been infected with bacterial chlamydia. I think this has been skewed research data to support Dr. Wheldon's theory. What's the base population from which this data is gathered? 70% of all the people in the world?

It is not widely accepted in the medical community nor accepted by neurologists in general. It is Dr. Wheldon's theory alone. There are no clinical research data to back this up.

Thanks for the information once again Mr Hall. We have all seen this before. Dr. Weldon and his antibiotic cure for MS.

Last week I posted a link saying Chlamydia Pneumoniae (Cpn) infection play a role in the pathogenesis or symptoms of some patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia Syndrome, and other unexplained illnesses?


http://www.immunesupport.com/library...le.cfm/ID/7938

Hi,

Unfortunately as I haven't posted enough yet, I am not allowed to provide any web links.

The Stratton study found 73% of MS infected with CPn and the control samples were 23%. Other labs disagreed, but there is a lot of controversy with diagnostic tests of this bug using PCR. That is why Stratton created his patent.

I understand that this subject is very controversial, but there are people getting better on the CAP. As to those people not having MS after all, I think both they and their neurologists would beg to differ.

The proof is in the pudding - ie the before and after MRI scans.

Very little of this research is currently in the public domain, but hopefully this will change when the Stratton Vanderbilt research labs starts up again very soon.

It is early days, but even some MS charities admit to a possible inconclusive cause being CPn.

Many thanks.

Mark Hall