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03-30-2008, 07:58 AM | #1 | ||
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Ongoing research by Doctor Stratton of Vanderbilt University has found over 70% of MS patients were infected with the bacterial infection Chlamydia Pneumoniae (Cpn). Not to be confused with the STD.
UK microbiologist Dr David Wheldon has researched Stratton's antibiotic protocol that was created to rid Cpn. Wheldon's wife has SPMS and has been on this protocol for over 2 years. Since being on this Combined Antibiotic Protocol (CAP), her MS has since gone into remission. I quote from Sarah Wheldon: http://www.avenues-of-sight.com/Sara...MSpages-2.html Quote:
Once it finds a cell it likes, which could be an immune system microphage cell, a muscle, skin, heart, liver, thyroid, brain (it has the capacity to bridge the blood-brain barrier) etc - it enters this cell and change to the intracellular Reticular Body (RB) form. In this form it acts like a parasite, parasitically stealing energy from the cell, by using the cell's mitrochrondria (cell energy factory), it grows and reproduces creating more EB's that it throws out the cell. As the cell is depleted in ATP energy which is created by the mitrochrondria, the cell does not have enough energy to do the job it is programmed to do, giving rise to the fatigue that many people who have MS and other illnesses that Cpn is implicated in. The Cpn bug is very good at hiding from your immune system. If it detects a threat to it's existence, like antibiotics, it simply converts to it's 3rd form, called the cryptic hibernation form which is also intracellular. In this form, it still continues to steal the cell's energy. Because it can hide from the immune system very easily (remember, it also infects immune system cells meaning that they are unable to do their job properly), this accounts for the very varied detection rate of this bug in the testing labs. Dr Stratton has designed a patent for Cpn testing and treatment. Dr David Wheldon also has a protocol based on Stratton's patent. This CAP consists of taking 3 different antibiotics together alongside a supplement called NAC. The reason for taking so many antibiotics, is because each one works for the different stages of the bug, including the cryptic hibernation form. Cpn can be eliminated, but it does take a long time to eliminate it completely. The protocol can last 2-5 years, with a steady improvement of symptoms. Usually people notice the improvements increase the greatest after a year of being on the CAP. Bear in mind that all of the above information is very cutting edge, and is mostly unknown by most of the medical establishment. Stratton's research lab at Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tennessee has recently been given further funding. He is to look into the links between Cpn and many chronic illnesses. He found Cpn infection in 100% of patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome using his patented diagnostic test. There are also links with Alzheimers, Asthma, Rheumatoid Arthritis and many other illnesses. In the control sample studies of healthy people, he found 18-20% Cpn infection, which goes to show how wide spread this bug is. I am simply putting this information in this forum to point people into a different direction for their own research into their illness. I was pointed into the direction of Cpn, when my partner, who has been bedridden for over 2 years with severe M.E/CFS, was diagnosed with Cpn. She has been on the Wheldon/Stratton CAP since late last year and is showing early, but small improvement in her symptoms. Mark Hall Last edited by Chemar; 03-30-2008 at 12:44 PM. Reason: adding source of quote |
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03-30-2008, 01:04 PM | #2 | ||
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Sorry, I forgot to mention - the "CAP" mentioned above stands for Combined Antibiotic Protocol.
Thanks, Mark |
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03-30-2008, 01:10 PM | #3 | |||
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If MS goes into permanent remission from ABX therapy, then it is my opinion, and that of my well respected neurologist, that one never really had an MS diagnosis.
I find it hard to believe that 70% of all people with MS have been infected with bacterial chlamydia. I think this has been skewed research data to support Dr. Wheldon's theory. What's the base population from which this data is gathered? 70% of all the people in the world? It is not widely accepted in the medical community nor accepted by neurologists in general. It is Dr. Wheldon's theory alone. There are no clinical research data to back this up. Thanks for the information once again Mr Hall. We have all seen this before. Dr. Weldon and his antibiotic cure for MS.
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03-30-2008, 01:17 PM | #4 | |||
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Last week I posted a link saying Chlamydia Pneumoniae (Cpn) infection play a role in the pathogenesis or symptoms of some patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia Syndrome, and other unexplained illnesses?
http://www.immunesupport.com/library...le.cfm/ID/7938
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Mark Hall (03-30-2008) |
03-30-2008, 02:06 PM | #5 | |||
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03-30-2008, 02:22 PM | #6 | ||
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Hi,
Unfortunately as I haven't posted enough yet, I am not allowed to provide any web links. The Stratton study found 73% of MS infected with CPn and the control samples were 23%. Other labs disagreed, but there is a lot of controversy with diagnostic tests of this bug using PCR. That is why Stratton created his patent. I understand that this subject is very controversial, but there are people getting better on the CAP. As to those people not having MS after all, I think both they and their neurologists would beg to differ. The proof is in the pudding - ie the before and after MRI scans. Very little of this research is currently in the public domain, but hopefully this will change when the Stratton Vanderbilt research labs starts up again very soon. It is early days, but even some MS charities admit to a possible inconclusive cause being CPn. Many thanks. Mark Hall |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | SallyC (03-30-2008) |
03-30-2008, 02:37 PM | #7 | |||
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03-30-2008, 02:42 PM | #8 | ||
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I am Sarah Longlands Wheldon and Cheryl, I can say that my diagnosis was definitely secondary progressive multiple sclerosis. After having been very mild since I was 24, it suddenly turned very aggressive and the Addenbroke's based neurologist warned my husband to "make arrangements" for me. He is a consultant level microbiologist who had trained as a neuropathologist under the renowned David Openheimer at Oxford. He had previously, in his early clinical years, seen people with end-stage MS, abandoned by their families, unable to move, twisted with spasticity, blind, unable to eat except with a tube into the stomach, permanently cathetered and worse. He didn't want to see me having the same fate.
Something about the way I was reacting, though, reminded him of other people he had seen with serious infections. He therefore spent the first few days after my diagnosis searching the internet for possible answers. What he found was the Vanderbilt University research into chlamydia pneumoniae as the infective cause of MS. Having treated other such infections, he knew exactly what I needed to start with,so brought me home a pack of doxycycline. It is now nearly five years since that diagnosis: the page which Mark was quoting from is a bit out of date. I finished treatment nearly a year ago and I have done nothing but improve since starting. There is no new disease activity on my MRIs and not only am I now painting again after having had a nearly paralysed right arm, but my mind is clearer than t has been for years. I can't say that CPn is always the infective cause of MS but it certainly was with mine and I am truly thankful for my husband of only a few years to endeavour to find this out. Sarah Last edited by Chemar; 03-30-2008 at 03:00 PM. Reason: administrative edit as per guidelines for new members |
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03-30-2008, 02:49 PM | #9 | ||
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It isn't just Dr Wheldon's theory.
Others that agree with this link is Dr Charles Stratton and neurologist Dr Sriram - both at Vanderbilt, and Californian rheumatologist Dr Michael Powell. Thanks, Mark |
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03-30-2008, 02:58 PM | #10 | ||
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It's really not Dr. Wheldon's theory alone. As Mark posted, Dr. Stratton at Vanderbilt, a well respected researcher in MS, has also engaged in the theory. These two are not alone. I researched this a lot and although I did not go on the protocol, I am a believer that at least in some, this could possibly be a cause. Aside from CPN, the potential role of bacteria is not discounted by many respected physicians. (This is what led me to CPN but there is much more on bacteria in general.) At any rate, this may be not proven, but not proven does not mean it's not true.
I really believe we probably didn't all get here the same way and I sometimes wonder if that's why finding the universally effective treatment and cure has been so difficult. |
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