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Twinkletoes 12-23-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Av8rgirl (Post 433035)
We want answers...we are begging for answers! I even tried a bribe! :eek:

How's the Hawaii kid?



Definitely want answers! I don't blame you one bit for begging. You need relief ASAP -- this has gone on L O N G enough!

What I want to know is, what did you bribe him with? :Scratch-Head:

hollym 12-23-2008 10:13 PM

So sorry you are in so much pain. Arm problems suck. Can they send you to a pain specialist?

I used to think my walking problems were bad, but that was before I started having arm problems.

tovaxin_lab_rat 12-23-2008 10:23 PM

They're not finding any lesions on my spinal column. Found two osteophytes, one at c3/4 and at t6/7. Carpal tunnel has been ruled out, twice. Yes, that was thought about at first because of my job.

No torn ligaments or rotator cuff damage, no arthritis, but there is a lot of inflammation right now and ice seems to be helping with the pain somewhat. Pain meds don't even touch it, ER doc says it's because it's pressure pain.

Radiculopathy has been mentioned along with nerve root damage but not what's causing either. No trauma and no recent injury. The mere fact that the steroids made me worse makes everyone suspicious of a damaged nerve somewhere and that's the reason for the nerve conduction testing...oh I hate that test!

Sure makes working impossible and I have a wedding to do Jan 2nd. Good thing I have good helpers. Bride and 3 bridesmaids, 2 mothers, 2 grandmothers, 2 table center pieces to do not to mention all the boutonnieres. I am slowly learning to be left handed and doing things with one hand!

I just need to research thalamus lesions and pain now...I will get this all figured out pretty soon. I have to.
http://ms.about.com/od/glossary/g/thalamus.htm

I just learned something....or remembered something I forgot! Now I just need to dig out my MRIs and remind myself where my lesions are...or just wait for the new MRI which is probably easier!



Thanks for the info Cherie.

sassy 12-23-2008 10:56 PM

Cheryl, I am so sorry about all this pain, it is so frustrating I am sure. I hope they figure it out SOON!

tovaxin_lab_rat 12-23-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ewizabeth (Post 433006)
I hope they fix it soon Cheryl, and an easy fix at that... :hug::hug::hug: I'm sorry you have so much pain. :(

Yeah....who's going to help you with all those salty margaritas on vacation? Oh oh ... you can wait on me! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by HollyM
So sorry you are in so much pain. Arm problems suck. Can they send you to a pain specialist?

Neurosurgeon mentioned a pain management specialist today as one of the options. I am up for anything at this point...well, almost....

SallyC 12-24-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Av8rgirl (Post 433091)
Neurosurgeon mentioned a pain management specialist today as one of the options. I am up for anything at this point...well, almost....

My DH always said a little penuscillin cured all pain..:D

I am so so sorry, Cheryl, darn it anyway..:(..Feel better soon..:hug:

ewizabeth 12-24-2008 12:03 AM

Here's what you want Cheryl, it will help with the pain.

Dirty Banana

1 oz creme de bananes
1 oz creme de cacao
1 oz KahluaŽ coffee liqueur
2 scoops vanilla ice cream (substitute 2 oz Jamaican rum cream :))

Blend with ice cubes... :p

For best result, take with a large order of fries. ;)

tovaxin_lab_rat 12-24-2008 12:12 AM

Have a busy day at the shop tomorrow and then a massage scheduled at 3 pm and then my massage therapist and I are going out for "Happy Hour."

Sound like a plan for ending pain for me!

That is of course if the snow storm doesn't hit too hard and we get snowed in again :rolleyes:

lady_express_44 12-24-2008 12:59 AM

So they think it is pain messages not being transmitted properly to and from the brain, because of the thalamus lesions? I don't really know much about that area of the brain, but it is in the brainstem, isn't it?

Did you have a lesion there the last time they looked?

I don't have carpal tunnel either, but I have very similar symptoms because of the damage to the spinal cord root where those nerves branch out ...

Wouldn't they expect a nerve conduction test show as "negative", IF it is from MS (vs peripheral nerve damage)?

Cherie

lady_express_44 12-24-2008 10:55 AM

Of course there is lots they still don't know about the brain . . . but it seems it is a gateway for transporting information to the cortex:

Thalamic Function: Overview

1. It parcels out and in some way integrates different inputs related to all sensory modalities except olfaction.
2. It plays a key role in the control of motor systems by way of its connections with the basal ganglia and cerebellum, and with its interconnections with motor cortex.
3. Together with the cerebral cortex, it is involved in conscious awareness, and probably language and memory.
4. It has a role in the maintenance of rhythmic sleep-wake cycles through its
intralaminar nuclei.
5. It has an important role in affect associated with emotional tone through its connections with limbic and prefrontal cortex.

http://hubio532.biostr.washington.ed...lamus.indd.pdf

A simpler link:

http://bci.ucsd.edu/107astudyguide/module_08.htm

Of course, even if the nerves are damaged in our spinal cord (which they are not thinking is the case with you at the moment ...), there really isn't any "damage" to where we feel the pain. It's a distortion or "phantom" (sensory perception of) pain/buring/numbness, etc.

Personally, I don't think they've nailed it yet for you, from all I've read. :cool:

Cherie


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