I picked up my rx today.

Yes it has a fast release filler.

It says to take one before bed. Is that the way everyone
takes it . Or does someone know better than the dr. when it is best to
take from experience.

I read all the information on the paper they give you with every
rx to tell you the good, the bad, and ugly of the drug.

It has some scary parts of how it can cause certain things. I
am confused about one thing, the drs. know that I take pain meds and
it said on the paper you should not take the drug if you are are on any
narcotic. Pain Meds, anxiety med, balance med, I haven't taken the
anti depress that he gave me. I am on enough junk.

SICK, SICK, SICK, OF MEDS.


JAPPY

I find it best to take at about midnight or before, if I go to bed earlier.

There is no danger in taking narco drugs with LDN....only that your narchotic won't work as well, since naltrexone, at high doses, is a narc antagonist.

WooHoo...Good luck.

Sally, since we don't take high doses of LDN, we can take a strong pain med, right?

The reason I ask is because I am to have a biopsy of my Thyroid gland. They stick one one those yucky big needles a few times into the neck, and then into the Thyroid gland. They give you a couple of shots to numb the area (I had this done in 2005) and more for the inside.

Then you walk out with a pain med script. I wonder if I should stop the LDN the night before? Or not take it the night of the day-surgery? I really don't want to feel this needle go in and pull out of few pieces of the gland and not have the numb feeling or have pain after. (sigh)

What is your take on this? Or anyone else?

Did anyone have minor surgery while on LDN? I had a lump on my leg cut out, last month, which was a small growth. The numbing needles worked, but for a very short while. My DH had one the same time as I did, and he felt numb all day.

It isn't a biggy I know, after jabbing needles into myself for the DMD's all the prior years, but I just wanted someone's opinion on this. I don't think the doctor doing this will have that information.

Thanks in advance for any words or answers.

I had a horrible night last night. I was having withdrawal symptoms.

they were awful. Called the pharmasit this morning she said that the LDN
seems to be acting towards the Tramadol that I take for the pain for
fibro. To give it a try a few more times and if I can cut down on the
tramadol that would be good.


Here I was all ready to start a new day with some great news and leave
it to me it always goes the opposite. Now back to sleep I need my rest.


Jappy

((((Jappy))))....What dose LDN? Is Tramadol a Narcotic?

Hi Jappy,
Is Tramadol the only pain medication you are taking? My Neuro said that one (Ultram) is the only one I will not benefit from, taking with LDN. I looked at Dr. Bihari's website and it states the same thing.

Personally, I found the Ultram (Tramadol) lost it's usefulness years ago for me. I used it for back pain before and after back surgery. My now Neuro says don't take Ultram, it has warnings on it with the FDA. I haven't checked that out, but will immediately after I post this.

LDN Q & A info:

Can LDN be taken with other medications such as tranquilizers or chemotherapy? How about interactions with alcohol or tobacco?

LDN can be taken along with any other medication or substance, so long as it is not narcotic-containing. Naltrexone is a pure opioid antagonist and it will block the action of narcotics.

Some examples of narcotic-containing drugs are Ultram, (ULTRAM® =Tramadol ) morphine, Percocet, Duragesic patch and any codeine-containing medication.

How Does It Work?

LDN is another one of those “no one really knows how it works” drugs for MS. One theory is that it increases the body’s sensitivity to its own endorphins, or even do something that helps the body make more endorphins (the feel-good hormones). There is some evidence that endorphins reduce inflammation, as well as lessen negative sensations of pain, fatigue and depression.

Another theory suggests that LDN somehow reduces the production of free radicals, almost acting like an antioxidant.

My Neuro also said this:

Our body produces natural opioids (endorphins) as part of its survival
response to danger and injury. Because the medications of this class (LDN) work in the same way by increasing endorphins, they work very well in blocking pain

I have found that the LDN does indeed block many of my pain and sensory symptoms. I looked this up because I wanted to know about the pain medication I will have for my biopsy.

IMO, FWIW, You probably will have some withdrawal from the Ultram (Tramadol). Maybe 50% to 80% effective. Can you switch from the Tramadol to something else? Or wait out the withdrawal? Or even start on 1.50 of LDN for now?

The LDN should give you pain relief, but you just started on it. It may take a a week or two until you can get up to the 3.0 mg and be on that for two weeks or so, to benefit from the LDN's natural pain reliever effects.

What type of pain were you using the Tramadol for? - if you don't mind me asking?

I haven't needed anything but Aspirin for sickness or headache since on LDN. I hope it works the same for you. It may take time.


PS: While typing this.. I just got a call from the doctor doing my Biopsy 9-1. No medication will be shot into the skin, and no pain medication will be used by this doctor before or after.

He said it causes swelling of the tissue. He said I won't feel a thing. This is a different doctor than last time. No Asprin prior he said, LDN is okay. Yippee!

Thanks, Lady, good advice....I didn't know that Ultram was Tramadol!!

.3mg LDN---I found out on Monday when I went to drs. that
tramadol is a narcotic. I was always told by me NJ dr. that it was not.
Now I told the opposite which I believe is right.


JAPPY

Thanks Lady for all this advice. I have said time and again come here
and you will get an answer.

Yes I did know that Tramadol was Ultram, my dr. in NJ he was my
Reumo dr. and he prescribed it to me and new all about my other conditions
and said not to worry about it.

Besides the ms I have fibro and bad, with osterarth. mybone density
has showed I have the signs of osterperosis in its early stage. I am on big
mess.

I am going to take the LDN tonight I plan on fighting this through. I will
try and use something over the counter for the pain and stay away from
the tramadol, If I can, pray that I will make it.


Jappy

Ultram
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/G.../UCM153130.pdf