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mrsD 12-19-2009 07:08 PM

I went on Google and found this:

http://greensplus.com/product_info.p...products_id/34

Is this what you are asking about?

If so, this is an enormously small amount of anything.
It is basically a food serving, not a vitamin supplement per se.

Nicknerd 12-19-2009 07:22 PM

Hi Mrs. D,

Sorry the formatting's kinda bad :S

Bones

Calcium (formate: 200mg; citrate-malate: 150mg; bisglycinate: 150mg):50mg
Magnesium:300mg
Vitamin D3:800IU
Vitamin C (calcium and magnesium ascorbate):100mg
Folic Acid, B12 and B6: 400mcg, 10mcg, 10mg
Silicon:3mg
Boron (FruiteX B® Osteoboron™):3mg
Zinc, Copper, Manganese:10mg, 1mg, 3mg
L-Lysine: 400mg
Selenium: 100mcg
Lycopene:7mg

Greens

Phosphatide complex (26% phosphatidyl choline from 97% oil-free lecithin)
In the brain, phosphatidyl choline is changed into actylcholine a compound essential for the transmission of messages from one nerve ending to another. In the intestinal tract, lecithin helps with the absorption of vitamins A and D, and other fat-soluble nutrients. In the bloodstream, lecithin may help prevent cholesterol and other fat from accumulating on the walls of the arteries.

2,171mg

Organic barley, alfalfa and wheat grass & red beet powders

1,543mg

Spirulina

1450 mgs

Apple fibre powder

1033mgs

Japanese Chorella

It is made up of 60% easily digested protein. It has nearly twice the protein of soy and 8 times that of rice, as well as an immense amount of chlorphyll. It contains over 20 different vitamins and minerals. Studies have found that chlorella helps detoxify the body of toxins.

383mgs

Organic Soy Sprout powder

383mgs

Organic whole brown rice powder

383mgs

Stevia leaf power

225 mgs

Eight non-dairy bacterial cultures containing Lactobacilli and bifidobacteria (2.5 billion per serving) in a special base of fructo-oligosaccharides (F.O.S.).
These beneficial lactobacilli restore the balance of microflora necessary for a healthy gastro-intestinal tract.

200 mgs

Royal jelly

150 mgs

Bee pollen powder

150 mgs

Licorice root extract

116 mgs

acerola berry juice powder

115 mgs

Siberian Ginseng extract

60mgs

Milk Thistle extract

60 mgs

Organic atlantic dulse powder

33 mgs

Ginkgo biloba extract

20mgs

Japanese Green tea extract

15mgs

European Bilberry extract

10mgs

Grape extract

5mgs

mrsD 12-19-2009 07:39 PM

First off.... the amounts of extracts in this are really low.
Imagine 1 gram (a very small amount) of apple fiber? What is apple fiber? pectin? or from the skin?

The calcium is really low. The magnesium stated does not say what kind, but at 300mg I suspect it is the ineffective magnesium oxide. It is odd, because they are so detailed about the calcium and then the magnesium is secretive?

For example grape seed extract starts being "therapeutic" at
100mg/cap.

There are many many things like this on the market. They sound good with all that stuff, but most people don't know what normal amounts of these things really are.

Since we don't know what kind of magnesium this has in it, it is hard to say what impact it would have on MG. The boron, and other minerals are similar to some OTC osteoporosis supplements, except for the calcium content which is surprising low.

One thing to look at very carefully...is what is this list pertaining to as a dose. 1 capsule contains? 2 capsules contain, 4 caps contain? People often don't notice this. As the price goes up, typically the # of capsules in a serving go up as well.

Example:
Quote:

Japanese Chorella
It is made up of 60% easily digested protein. It has nearly twice the protein of soy and 8 times that of rice, as well as an immense amount of chlorphyll. It contains over 20 different vitamins and minerals. Studies have found that chlorella helps detoxify the body of toxins.

383mgs
How much protein do you think you are getting in 383 mg?
This is a minute amount of anything! This statement alone gives me the creeps...

I don't see anything harmful in it, tho...if you can afford it.
But I'd like to know exactly what kind of magnesium is in it.

BillF 12-19-2009 08:16 PM

Magnesium is necessary. If you research, it appears on common lists for MGers to avoid, however real data is not there. I have been magnesium deficient and had to take supplements. If you are pregnant, magnesium can be a problem, as it can for any pregnant woman. As far as I can tell the reason magnesium ended up on avoid lists was because of a report of problems with one pregnant woman. Not all of the avoid items on the drug list apply to everyone or actually are the result of research; anecdotal stories are given the same credence as real research for MG.

Bill

Nicknerd 12-19-2009 08:46 PM

Thanks, Mrs. D.

I already bought it!:o Oh well, lesson learned...I'll try it and see if I notice any difference...At least it wont hurt...

I feel so 'had' lol
Nicky

P.S. Thanks for the info., Billy...I agree that magnesium is necessary, and I was pretty sure I was deficient at least before...Lots of cramps and muscle twitching (this is all before ever starting mestinon)...I'm sure that as long as the dose isn't too high, and it's taken with other nutrients so the combo. is more similar to a whole meal, maybe, it should be okay..

mrsD 12-20-2009 04:57 AM

If you get loose stools using this, it might point to that magnesium being the oxide form, which is not absorbed. It will pass into the bowel and loosen you up (people vary however with this).

There are foods relatively high in magnesium.

1 cup of navy beans = 110mg
3 oz of almonds == 270mg
1 cup yogurt == 47mg
1 serving oatmeat==57mg

Most green veggies have magnesium.
You can check various foods at www.nutritiondata.com


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