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Old 10-19-2009, 06:38 PM #1
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I am a 62 years old female, as of 11/28/09. I got dentures, in Mexico, about 4 years ago. After that I started to have a burning in my lips. It has gotten much worse. I use a mixture of Maalox, Lidocaine and Diphendryl, prescribed by a dentist, in my mouth to deaden the burning, but it really doesn't help, but that is all I have. I do not take hormones, because my Mother had Breast Cancer. I have tried supplements, my doctor treated me for mouth funges, herpes, infection and I even tried anti-depressents. I have also had a blood workup and it shows nothing. Sometimes I show a redness in my lips, but usually nothing. All to no avail. If I didn't have a Catholic faith and the love of my Husband, I would have gone crazy by now. I am going to see the doctor on Wednesday and I am going to discuss it with him, again. Is there anyone out there who can help me. I have been all over the internet several times. Does anyone else have this and can they make any suggestions to help me, please? I need a sad face here.
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Welcome to NT!

I'm sorry for the symptoms you're having and I hope someone will see your post and recognize it as something they've been through. We have a forum for dentistry discussion and support at the following link:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum89.html


I hope you'll get some answers and meet some new friends in the process. Feel better soon.
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No Alanda, I don't have that particular symptom, but I am quite familiar with the difficulties of adjusting to dentures. Maybe there is something wrong with the fit. Can you return to the dentist who made them or go to another one for an opionion? Are you cleaning your dentures with something that you might be allergic to? Do you dentures themselves hurt you in any way or fit improperly? It kind of sounds like an allergic reaction to something, but I would discuss it with a dentist, preferably the one who made the teeth. Sorry I could not be more helpful. Did you post on the dental board? billie
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Hi alandale,

I'm sorry you are having such discomfort. Burning mouth syndrome can be extremely uncomfortable. Hope you don't mind a few questions.......

What product are you using to clean the dentures with?
Do you leave your dentures out at night?
What else are you rinsing your mouth with besides what the doctor prescribed?
Are you menopausal or post menopausal?

All oral products that contain alcohol and/or sodium lauryl sufate are irritating to the oral tissue and should not be used. Many people are very sensitive or allergic to these things and will develop a burning sensation in their mouths. A good alternative is herbal based, non alcohol, non preservative, oral products because they are less likely to cause an allergic reaction. Another ingredient that is found in many oral products that people are sensitive to is called Triclosan. This is a presevative that acts as an antibacterial agent and it's found in many soaps, deodorants, toothpastes, etc. In our office, we see many people with reactions to this ingredient when they use colgate total toothpaste. Once they stop using it, the burning sensation goes away.

With regard to hormones........ it is not unusual for a middle aged women to experience burning mouth symptoms. An imbalance in hormones can certainly cause all sorts of things to occur anywhere in the body. Have you done any reading on on Bio Identical hormone replacement? We use to be told that a family history of breast cancer meant that we had to avoid taking hormones. But the new information which includes Bio Identical hormones tells us that is not the case anymore. If you are interested in reading about it, I can find some links for you.......?

Something else that may help topically with the pain in your mouth is a product called Xylitol. You can do a google search on it. It is very healing to the oral tissues and even reduces the likelihood of a fungus infection which are common in people who wear dentures.

Hope to be helpful to you...... look forward to you reply..........

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I am a 62 years old female, as of 11/28/09. I got dentures, in Mexico, about 4 years ago. After that I started to have a burning in my lips. It has gotten much worse. I use a mixture of Maalox, Lidocaine and Diphendryl, prescribed by a dentist, in my mouth to deaden the burning, but it really doesn't help, but that is all I have. I do not take hormones, because my Mother had Breast Cancer. I have tried supplements, my doctor treated me for mouth funges, herpes, infection and I even tried anti-depressents. I have also had a blood workup and it shows nothing. Sometimes I show a redness in my lips, but usually nothing. All to no avail. If I didn't have a Catholic faith and the love of my Husband, I would have gone crazy by now. I am going to see the doctor on Wednesday and I am going to discuss it with him, again. Is there anyone out there who can help me. I have been all over the internet several times. Does anyone else have this and can they make any suggestions to help me, please? I need a sad face here.
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I'll second that Triclosan advice! There are studies to show this ingredient can be very irritating!

I am going to link this thread to a current one we have on PN:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...742#post581742

I would also like to direct this question to Bryanna:
What do you think of the new Hall's lozenge with isomalt in it?
Do you think this is helpful, like xylitol is?
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You're probably right about the allergic reaction to something. Couldn't she do allergy testing to find out, blood or skin?



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Hi alandale,

I'm sorry you are having such discomfort. Burning mouth syndrome can be extremely uncomfortable. Hope you don't mind a few questions.......

What product are you using to clean the dentures with?
Do you leave your dentures out at night?
What else are you rinsing your mouth with besides what the doctor prescribed?
Are you menopausal or post menopausal?

All oral products that contain alcohol and/or sodium lauryl sufate are irritating to the oral tissue and should not be used. Many people are very sensitive or allergic to these things and will develop a burning sensation in their mouths. A good alternative is herbal based, non alcohol, non preservative, oral products because they are less likely to cause an allergic reaction. Another ingredient that is found in many oral products that people are sensitive to is called Triclosan. This is a presevative that acts as an antibacterial agent and it's found in many soaps, deodorants, toothpastes, etc. In our office, we see many people with reactions to this ingredient when they use colgate total toothpaste. Once they stop using it, the burning sensation goes away.

With regard to hormones........ it is not unusual for a middle aged women to experience burning mouth symptoms. An imbalance in hormones can certainly cause all sorts of things to occur anywhere in the body. Have you done any reading on on Bio Identical hormone replacement? We use to be told that a family history of breast cancer meant that we had to avoid taking hormones. But the new information which includes Bio Identical hormones tells us that is not the case anymore. If you are interested in reading about it, I can find some links for you.......?

Something else that may help topically with the pain in your mouth is a product called Xylitol. You can do a google search on it. It is very healing to the oral tissues and even reduces the likelihood of a fungus infection which are common in people who wear dentures.

Hope to be helpful to you...... look forward to you reply..........

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Hi alandale,

I'm sorry you are having such discomfort. Burning mouth syndrome can be extremely uncomfortable. Hope you don't mind a few questions.......

What product are you using to clean the dentures with?
Do you leave your dentures out at night?
What else are you rinsing your mouth with besides what the doctor prescribed?
Are you menopausal or post menopausal?

All oral products that contain alcohol and/or sodium lauryl sufate are irritating to the oral tissue and should not be used. Many people are very sensitive or allergic to these things and will develop a burning sensation in their mouths. A good alternative is herbal based, non alcohol, non preservative, oral products because they are less likely to cause an allergic reaction. Another ingredient that is found in many oral products that people are sensitive to is called Triclosan. This is a presevative that acts as an antibacterial agent and it's found in many soaps, deodorants, toothpastes, etc. In our office, we see many people with reactions to this ingredient when they use colgate total toothpaste. Once they stop using it, the burning sensation goes away.

With regard to hormones........ it is not unusual for a middle aged women to experience burning mouth symptoms. An imbalance in hormones can certainly cause all sorts of things to occur anywhere in the body. Have you done any reading on on Bio Identical hormone replacement? We use to be told that a family history of breast cancer meant that we had to avoid taking hormones. But the new information which includes Bio Identical hormones tells us that is not the case anymore. If you are interested in reading about it, I can find some links for you.......?

Something else that may help topically with the pain in your mouth is a product called Xylitol. You can do a google search on it. It is very healing to the oral tissues and even reduces the likelihood of a fungus infection which are common in people who wear dentures.

Hope to be helpful to you...... look forward to you reply..........

Bryanna
Dear Bryanna:

Thanks for you reply.

I have been tested for fungus of the mouth and I don't have that.

I also experience discomfort in my left cheek when I have the burning lips. I find that a Darvocet takes the cheek problem away.

I was prescribed Gabapantin, but it affected my vision so I had to stop taking it, but that did help my burning. I am waiting to hear from my doctor with another medication.

I also heard from "Angelonely", on this website, who takes Lyrica, but that has given her some bad side effects. (I am trying to figure out how to give her the information that you have given me)

I will mention the Bio Indentical Hormones to my medical provider when I hear from them.

Thanks again,

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hi, dale

yes that was great info. i copied the address and took it to Angel's ?? private message.

here is a link to angel http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/me...#vmessage29519

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Dear Bryanna:

Thanks for you reply.

I have been tested for fungus of the mouth and I don't have that.

I also experience discomfort in my left cheek when I have the burning lips. I find that a Darvocet takes the cheek problem away.

I was prescribed Gabapantin, but it affected my vision so I had to stop taking it, but that did help my burning. I am waiting to hear from my doctor with another medication.

I also heard from "Angelonely", on this website, who takes Lyrica, but that has given her some bad side effects. (I am trying to figure out how to give her the information that you have given me)

I will mention the Bio Indentical Hormones to my medical provider when I hear from them.

Thanks again,

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Dear Bryanna:

Thanks for you reply.

I have been tested for fungus of the mouth and I don't have that.

I also experience discomfort in my left cheek when I have the burning lips. I find that a Darvocet takes the cheek problem away.

I was prescribed Gabapantin, but it affected my vision so I had to stop taking it, but that did help my burning. I am waiting to hear from my doctor with another medication.

I also heard from "Angelonely", on this website, who takes Lyrica, but that has given her some bad side effects. (I am trying to figure out how to give her the information that you have given me)

I will mention the Bio Indentical Hormones to my medical provider when I hear from them.

Thanks again,

Dale
Dear Bryanna:

I didn't answer all your questions, so here they are:

We use Walmart Denture Cleaner at night for only 20-30 minutes then the dentures stay in water overnight.

I don't use anything else to rinse my mouth, except I use Biotene tooth paste on m gums twice per day with a soft tooth brush.

I am also post menopausal.

Thanks again,

Dale
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