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Old 02-21-2009, 09:51 AM #1
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I had two spinal fusion s and laminectomy first one bone graft did not take . I just found out that i have spondolysis of cervical ,thorasic,lumbar spine . Many buldging disc throughout my spine.my biggest problem is in coccyx area i cant sit due to pain .so i had a mri done .results as follows l3 l4 posterior facet hypertrophic changes are noted producing mild deformity of lateral recess.atl4 l5 of the residual disc material is noted with posterior facet hypertrophic change and spondylitic change.evidence of prior laminectomy is noted.the theal sac is quite capacious at this level.expected enhancement is noted within operative bed. At l5 s1 dorsal disc buldging is noted with ligamentum flavum thickening andposterior facet hypertrophic change. What is schmoris nodes noted adjacent to the l3 l4 disc alsoposterior facet hypertrophic changes are noted producing mild deformity of the lateral recess.
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welcome to neurotalk ... there are lots of friendly and supportive people here so jump right in and start posting ... should you need help, don't hesitate to ask someone ... we are here to help ... sounds to me like you might benefit from the spinal and back forum http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum22.html ... i am sure someone will be alone soon who may have more ideas for you ... again ...
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Hi, and welcome to NeuroTalk! Below, I've posted a link for the Chronic Pain forum. That may be of some help to you.


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I had two spinal fusion s and laminectomy first one bone graft did not take . I just found out that i have spondolysis of cervical ,thorasic,lumbar spine . Many buldging disc throughout my spine.my biggest problem is in coccyx area i cant sit due to pain .so i had a mri done .results as follows l3 l4 posterior facet hypertrophic changes are noted producing mild deformity of lateral recess.atl4 l5 of the residual disc material is noted with posterior facet hypertrophic change and spondylitic change.evidence of prior laminectomy is noted.the theal sac is quite capacious at this level.expected enhancement is noted within operative bed. At l5 s1 dorsal disc buldging is noted with ligamentum flavum thickening andposterior facet hypertrophic change. What is schmoris nodes noted adjacent to the l3 l4 disc alsoposterior facet hypertrophic changes are noted producing mild deformity of the lateral recess.
uhhh... no fun

Your discs are shock absorbers (soft tissues) that are in between your vertebrae (bone).

Bulges of discs are like a knot on a tire.

Herniations of discs are a little worse; in that, they have an opening in the disc (not good) where the gelatinous material can come outside this discs. on a microscopic basis of course, and over time may flatten and weaken the disc.

Schmorl's nodes are still herniations or bulges, located at the end plate - (just the location). The doctor's name for naming this type of bulge was a German pathologist, Dr. Schmorl. It is also thought that these Schmorl's nodes are more injury related and can cause early degenerative processes to occur, which your posts confirms degeneration, "hypertrophic changes."

ligamentus flavum is a stong ligament, like inside your vertebrae, that holds the vertebrae in alignment. thickening is indicative of spondylosis, which you have.

spondylosis is also a aging process. more related to osteoarthritis.

It's too bad you have these findings in your entire spinal column and already had two surgeries.

hope that helps.

Your doctor may explain it to you differently so let's see what your doc tells you.

Make yourself comfortable but you need to strengthen your stomach muscles to help your back become stronger, to hold those bulges and herniations better. Plus you'll need to keep active. Don't just cease up. You'll hurt a lot worse.

oh, yeah. and inhale water... as much as you can drink
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uhhh... no fun

Your discs are shock absorbers (soft tissues) that are in between your vertebrae (bone).

Bulges of discs are like a knot on a tire.

Herniations of discs are a little worse; in that, they have an opening in the disc (not good) where the gelatinous material can come outside this discs. on a microscopic basis of course, and over time may flatten and weaken the disc.

Schmorl's nodes are still herniations or bulges, located at the end plate - (just the location). The doctor's name for naming this type of bulge was a German pathologist, Dr. Schmorl. It is also thought that these Schmorl's nodes are more injury related and can cause early degenerative processes to occur, which your posts confirms degeneration, "hypertrophic changes."

ligamentus flavum is a stong ligament, like inside your vertebrae, that holds the vertebrae in alignment. thickening is indicative of spondylosis, which you have.

spondylosis is also a aging process. more related to osteoarthritis.

It's too bad you have these findings in your entire spinal column and already had two surgeries.

hope that helps.

Your doctor may explain it to you differently so let's see what your doc tells you.

Make yourself comfortable but you need to strengthen your stomach muscles to help your back become stronger, to hold those bulges and herniations better. Plus you'll need to keep active. Don't just cease up. You'll hurt a lot worse.

oh, yeah. and inhale water... as much as you can drink
Thank you for your information. Im just at lost on what to do now.
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Thank you for your information. Im just at lost on what to do now.

Give things a little more time. kind of adjust and heal a little bit. physically, mentally and emotionally.

Think about what you have done and what it did for you. Probably not a pleasant thought if you've had two surgeries and you're still in pain. So sorry things didn't work out for the better for you.

There's new developments in pain management all the time, just don't end up being a guinea pig. be careful. ask questions.

Make sure you're making yourself clear to your health care providers about your complaints, history, results and goals. I know how hard that can be. Sometimes I just felt like a piece of plastic being run through a credit card machine. Sales over... You bought it. See ya!!!! know what I mean, Vern?

you may have to accept some level of discomfort and work around it. You can get pain relief, but there's always a trade. ask more questions.

Do get a treatment and wellness plan that you can live with. May take some time to find the right thing. hope you find a compassionate person to work with you.

Do you have someone to help you? I wouldn't know what I would do without my hubby to do a ton of errands for me, and he's a pretty good cook too. I think it was Astern that had a good post about "when you bring me something to drink, don't put it in a heavy cup." Boy do I know what she meant there.

Try to avoid doing the things that cause you the most discomfort, even if you have to do without some things for a while. Not that you're not doing without enough already. That's the meaning of suffering too.

Maybe deligate some tasks to someone for a while. Swamp with them for something you can do for them.

Be open to trying other forms of treatment modalities... stretches, some yoga poses may help you.

I've bought a lot of self-help stuff. some helped and some didn't. You can certainly find a lot of ideas under "Classifieds" and I thought I ran into another thread on NeuroTalk that had just a wealth of resources and items and ideas for handicap and self-helper stuff to buy. Always ask or read the return policy, just in case it don't help you out.

hang in there
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