This is very interesting to me because the nutritional oncologist we went to a few weeks ago told us to stop taking the coQ10 we were using (it is terribly expensive AND is the same coQ10 used in the earlier clinical trials for PD which initially showed favorable results, then later the results were mixed)....our nutritionist told us to take hydrosoluble coQ10, a particular kind which we got from epic4health.com. In today's news, lo and behold, Canadian researchers claim hydrosoluble coQ10 combined with Vitamin E (don't know how much) protected neurons in mice given a neurotoxin. The other bonus seems to be a much lower amount of coQ10 in the water soluble form (we were taking a whopping 1200mg a day which is hard to get that many pills down). Here's the link:

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/C...064/story.html

but can't tell which one is hydrosoluble. What is the brand name?

TIA

Cal

It's bioQsorb, activeQ extra strength (200mg). According to our guy, it MUST be ubiquinol, not ubiquinone. Ubiquinone is what most everyone takes and it is the coQ our body takes and makes into ubiquinol...if there is something that is making it harder for the body to make that change, this allows you to bypass that step and just take the ubiquinol directly.

One thing about the article that puzzled me was, if you take water soluble coQ, with vitamin E, I thought vitamin E was a fat soluble vitamin. Not sure how these work together in that case.

If a pill is ubiquinol, is that the same as water soluble CoQ10

Hi

If you do a Google Search using terms "Water-soluble Co-enzyme Q-10 you get a lot of US based supplier of this. I am not in the USA. Perhaps some one can follows this up and get a list of suppliers

My understanding is that ubiquinol can be either form, we were told to take the hydrosoluble form (water soluble) and that it come from a certain manufacturuer which the bioQ is.

Lurkingforacure, thanks for the intriguing leads on bioQsorb. I can't find any CoQ10 product on the market called BioQsorb. I did a search for bioQsorb and got 12 hits none of which, as far as I could tell, offered a product by that name for sale. Epic4health*** has a product called Qgel CoQ10 which is water soluble. Could that be the one you had in mind?

Yes, this is it....we get our from epic4health and if you go to their site you will see they offer a discount if you buy more than one bottle!

lurking,

I've been wanting to jump on the CoQ10 bandwagon for quite some time now. At first I was leaning toward Puritan's Pride because they seem like a reputable manufacturer (IIRC, their Unbiquinol form is recommended by Consumer Labs), and because of their good prices. But I got scared away when I learned their CoQ10 Softgels - the supplement I can afford - contain soy lecithin.

The Q-gel products made available by epic4health seem superior, but... man, how does anyone afford the cost??? Curious, how much of the Q-gel hydrosoluble are you taking per day?

Eager to jump on the bandwagon... don't want to bankrupt my family in the process.

We take the 1200mg a day and have been since we first read about it...can't say it has slowed our progression, though...I hate that too, because it's impossible to prove you would have progressed faster had you not taken it!

Yes, it is horribly expensive, but we buy them in the bulk from epic4health and it helps some with cost...the other thing we do, which may help you, is that we have a flex account at work so can get reimbursed at the end of the year for our out of pocket medical expenses if we elected enough to cover them...for example, say for this year you elect $2,000 to be witheld from your paycheck in equal amounts over the year, at the end of the year, you'll get that back when you submit receipts totalling that much or more. They are very liberal in reimbursement, as well, we have been allowed reimbursement for all of our medical visits, co-pays for meds, nicotine patches (not recommending that, just saying we do it), supplements including co-Q, you get the idea.

Insurance, if you have it, won't cover a lot of this stuff but you can at least end up paying for it with pre-tax dollars if you elect enough in your flex account. Note: I read that Obama's healthcare legislation limits the amount you can elect under a flex account to $2,500.00 which is nothing if you add up how much we all spend in a year, I don't know why he did this other than to try to limit options people currently have. It certainly does not help anyone other than the tax man.

The kicker is deciding how much to elect each year. Our amount goes up every year but we still always spend more than we elected, which is the way you want it: if you elect more than you need, the excess is forfeited and goes to the government. Hope this helps!