[Chemar]

Hi

as this forum often gets many posts with useful info from research papers, news articles and a whole lot more, I do need to draw your attention to a thread running on CFF regarding the correct way to post this material without infringing copyright.

it is real important to abide by this as we get complaints from authors, publications etc when copyrighted material is incorrectly sourced etc. and especially when entire articles are copied over

here is Doc's thread on CFF
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread37384.html



basic requirements mean you should:
1/
always cite the source and author

2/
give a URL link to the source wherever possible

3/
dont copy and paste the WHOLE piece, but instead give only the abstract, or snips from the piece and then the link so that others can follow it to read the whole

much appreciation for everyone's co-operation on this

Cheri

[jeanb]

Chemar,

I have always followed your copyright recomendations - and would respect the authors' rights by not copying the entire piece!

But recently, I found that a non-profit org had copied & used an entire page from pdplan4life.com - even though Sheryl and I had copyrighted our work. When I questioned this action, I was informed that it was "fair use" and non-profits could take anything they wanted for their use, including the use of entire web pages or documents, whether it were copyrighted or not.

That still doesn't seem quite right to me, but that attitude is out there. I much prefer to follow your guidelines, and Doc's.

[Chemar]

just bumping this up FYI as we are seeing a number of members not attributing, citing and source linking, which is often a violation of copyright

we used to have a very relaxed approach to this till we started getting complaints from authors/publications etc

please could all be sure to cite, source and link correctly so that we adhere to correct protocol on this

1/
always cite the source and author

2/
give a URL link to the source wherever possible

3/
dont copy and paste the WHOLE piece, but instead give only the abstract, or snips from the piece and then the link so that others can follow it to read the whole

thanks
Cheri

[reverett123]

What is the copyright status of abstracts from Medline? It is a government site but the abstracts are part of the original paper.

[Curious]

rick, are you getting the medline information off a website? can you post the link? i can do some research.

[Curious]

i found this: http://www.cos.com/policy/medlegal.shtml


COPYRIGHT
NLM databases are produced by a U.S. government agency and as such the contents are not covered by copyright domestically. They may be copyrighted outside the U.S. Some NLM produced data is from copyrighted publications of the respective copyright claimants. Users of the NLM databases are solely responsible for compliance with any copyright restrictions and are referred to the publication data appearing in the bibliographic citations, as well as to the copyright notices appearing in the original publications, all of which are incorporated by reference. Users should consult legal counsel before using NLM-produced records to be certain that their plans are in compliance with appropriate laws. All records must be identified as being derived form NLM databases.

[lurkingforacure]

I posted an article from a website this afternoon and am assuming it prompted this thread, sorry. What did I leave off that I should have included, so that I don't do it again. Was it the actual url of the news site I got it from? Thanks.

[Curious]

the url has to be posted and only a small portion can be posted. ( a few lines)

it wasn't just your post there have been others.
be sure to edit in the url and cut it down. if you need help, let me know.

[Howardh]

Chemar Curious...The Vytorin Scandal is real. What I have posted on the big Pharma site giving the source may not be good enough. I have a copy of the news letter, and i can email that too you. There are better sources such as newsweek and others. Await your instructions on this one.


http://www.newsweek.com/id/94969/page/1

[Chemar]

Hi Howard, I just replied to your email too and will quote some of my reply here for general information

if the Newsletter doesnt have a section attached that warns about copyright then it should be ok to post. If it warns that it is copyrighted then the author might complain.

it is such a fine line and we have taken a real relaxed approach to it unless we know for sure there is copyright....eg many Newspapers, research journals etc and then we have just been PMing members to add attribution/links etc.

so I would say provided your newsletter doesnt specifically warn of copyright violation, then it is ok. You did give the author's name. May be a good idea in future to place the copied piece in the quote tags to distinguish it from your own words

we really dont want to be seen as "copyright police" nor to hamper the excellent info that is posted here so often.

unless we know for sure that there is a definite copyright infringement, we take a "wait see if anyone complains" approach, and just PM members who have copied known copyrighted work without attribution/source link etc

We likely wouldnt even have drawn attention to this had we not had some complaints from authors/publications etc. When they complain we have to immediately comply

thanks for checking.....