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Old 06-19-2012, 08:34 PM #61
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Now newcomers,
Let me introduce you to two self- taught ladies, educated through experience and masters at the gift of gab, and comforting words, and respect. Gosh, how I wish this fairy tale Had a better ending!

I love you both - keep teaching and remember that your written words can never fade away! and so many have been helped because of your willingness to share.
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not to be morbid but it is an advantage to be able to plan your own service. then it will go as you dictate. All I need is this thread.

it flows with creativity, understanding. warmth, and beauty; this is a place of harmony and caring. my family is printing it out; they don't need to search for words. They are all here and expressed with honesty. Each worded from individual perspectives; Ann T does your post mean you are not still afraid of me? lol...so long ago and u had a right to be. this forum developed kind of like a volcanic eruption that has settled but humming with information.

we are inside each other's head. many years of that is like carving a sculpture. we have to leave some time, but at this point death is a release for me. it will set me free from what is now poorly controlled pd and my only chance would have been gene therapy - a trial with GDNF. At one per month......well.....so this timing is perhaps a good one for me although i believe as Imad that only God determines the day, but knowing it's coming enables me to tie up many loose ends.

it's a time to forgive and be at peace. family squabbles are over unimportant things and slowly go away.

we already lost bandido bob in the book group. i hope i get to see it published and if faizan is doing a documentary you will see my aqua zumba class....lol......it was one of the last i attended. i hope to get back after radiation [to shrink the tumor]. radiation exhausts u in ways that are much harder to overcome than pd.

it's the only treatment i'm taking and i'm trying to avoid a feeding tube. at the end of radiation, i'm hoping for energy again to go back to class. meds aren't working well and i'm getting a nuisance of a dyskinetic right leg. i finally look good from behind in my bathing suit as the bulges that stick out over the top of the back are gone. Unfortunately, i only weigh 110 lb. and if i lose more will probably have to get a peg tube. i get hydrated a few times a week. It' not fun.

this thread helps my family, with 2 daughters who are in their 20s and quickly putting past resentments to rest and now are with me everyday they have off. my 9 yr old grandson is a little angry and impatient with me and sadly, i couldn't manage him alone for more that a day. my other grandson is 5 months old and so chubby i can barely lift him. but he is mellow and plays......i love them dearly. i guess i won't see either daughter wed. the mother is engaged but wants to lose the weight she gained and wait for the baby to be more independent before wedding. my youngest daughter just went to europe alone and is now communicating with Orville. from Austria. He has a farm and competes in horse shows. i said "farm? two words: animal poop". I asked if she would be picking cherries and baking pies in the kitchen,she said, "what would be wrong with that?" Indeed. I was in Hawaii at age 23 and didn't come back for almost 11 years. but she has one more year of school left before she should go cherry picking and clean up animal poop in Austria.

ok this is now too long but it is therapuetic and this situation, tho sad, is setting me free as life has poor quality now. when you ask yourself, as laura did,"what about the God thing?" how many times have u heard mike fox say if he had to do it over again he wouldn't change it? i agree but from a different perspective. God [in my opinion] wants us to be prepared, tested, refined,and he works through people. He doesn't wave a magic wand. In spite of it all, i feel nothing but love. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be..isn't that all anyone wants?with love and peace
Although we never met but like others in this forum we got to know you and love you through your posts which are always sincere, informative and funny.
You are a courageous lady and have faith in God and in his infinite power and wisdom. It is God'will that all of us will cross the other world some time and some place only known to God. It may happen in the next hour, day, year or decade. So I sincerely and lovingly refuse to hear you or any body else talking about eminent coming end to your life. I myself believe that you will be with us for a long time and the doctors are committing a great sin claiming to be God, knowing the length of your life. It is true that life and PD prepares us for the end but we continue to live as best as we can , thankful for all the joys we had and accepting without a grudge all the pains we had and this gives us the courage to live in this imperfect world.
Dear Paula: I have recently come across literature which advocate the use of high doses of vitamin C to treat Cancer taking it alone (up 20 to 40 gm a day Intravenously ) or as adjunct to conventional chemotherapy and radiation.
Apparently, two-time Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling and other researchers and doctors have been shouting, for many years for use of this natural and completely harmless therapy but they were opposed by the medical establishment and pharmacy industry (some argue because it would harm the multi-billion cancer treatment industry). Please check it out for yourself and insist on using it as it is absolutely harmless.
http://acam.typepad.com/blog/2011/05/high-dose-vitamin-c-for-people-with-cancer-a-promising-adjunct-to-mainstream-cancer-treatment.html

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Paula - I reached out into the great expanse of the internet in 2002, and you grasped my hand. "Join us at Braintalk!" That was in March; in May I met you in DC at the PAN Forum (along with Jaye, Peg, Greg, AJ, Linda, Carol, Carl, Nan, Brenda, Perry, et al) We hung out at the Senate hearing and cheered Michael, Ali, Joan, and Milly. We tricked Bill Bell into getting our picture taken with Ole Isacson. And I believe we changed history.

You were my first comrade in advocacy; I learned so much from you - and we had so much fun! (Drinking Friday night wine while talking on the phone; peeing our pants at conferences; gatherings at Carol's house - Greg & AJ's wedding! watching Eddie Izzard! - scouting gators in an airboat when I visited you in Florida; eating Thai food with Bill when you came to Seattle) I always thought it was significant that we became friends from the opposite ends of the country; that we represented PD patients everywhere. You've been a huge influence in my life - and, I am certain, a huge influence in the lives of many, many others. Your life and the way you lived it made a difference. We are better off because of you.

It makes me both mad and sad that we don't have a cure; it makes no sense that this can be happening to you.

I know your faith is deep; that is a comfort to me as well as it is for you. I know without a doubt that I will see you again. The courage of the choices you are making now inspire me completely. I can't imagine the world without you.

I love you!


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I love you as a comrade and a friend. I have the most profound respect for you as an advocate and as a person of tremendous strength. You are among a very small circle of persons about whom I would say that. From Braintalk chat rooms, to important introductions to which you had to drag me kicking and screaming, to meeting you in person on an early summer evening on Carol's back porch in Kentucky, to a decade of fighting and winning a place at the table for PWP, you figure in thousands of snippets of my memory over the last 12 years. I can't believe that you are being taken away from us.

Life is a treasure and a precious gift and a joy, even or especially with a chronic disease that can, as the condemned man said as he stepped up to the executioner, greatly focus the mind. But sometimes it is also a swindle, and a lie, and a broken promise that breaks your heart. For me, right now, it feels like the latter. But I know that for you at least life has not broken your spirit. You are as brave now as I have ever known you to be, and I've watched you stand up to some of the most famous blowhards and blockheads that the medical and pharmaceutical establishments have to offer. So I'm going to try to take a page from your book, and make this a reminiscence rather than a eulogy.

There are so many things that I remember when I think of you now. My wedding day and you among the wedding party. You and others had traveled so many miles to see AJ and me get married. What a glorious day. Thank you for helping to make it the perfect thing that it was.

Of course I remember the GDNF fight with Amgen. I remember you and me and some of the gang facing off against the clinical trial doctors who supported the decision to stop the trials. We held our own that day, a fact which was made clear when we discovered that sponsor of the meeting “accidentally” turned off the tape recorder, preventing any trail that might harm those arrogant know-it-all neurologists.

I remember you and Jaye traveling to Washington to cover the Senate hearing for Grassroots Connection.

I remember (and it still exists on Carol's website) the film of you and Carol surfing the web when you were “off.” You were a stitch, your eyes half closed and barely moving. That is one of the things that sets you apart – your capacity for humor in the worst moments with PD. It is a testament to your determination to gut-out the bad times.

Bumming cigarettes from you on the sidewalks outside of PAN forums in DC.

You know, a guy you introduced me to gave me a pack of smokes outside his apartment in NYC. I thought about keeping them as a souvenir, but they got stale and I tossed them. I didn't know it then, but I already had a friend who would lend them to me far into the future.

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Although we never met but like others in this forum we got to know you and love you through your posts which are always sincere, informative and funny.
You are a courageous lady and have faith in God and in his infinite power and wisdom. It is God'will that all of us will cross the other world some time and some place only known to God. It may happen in the next hour, day, year or decade. So I sincerely and lovingly refuse to hear you or any body else talking about eminent coming end to your life. I myself believe that you will be with us for a long time and the doctors are committing a great sin claiming to be God, knowing the length of your life. It is true that life and PD prepares us for the end but we continue to live as best as we can , thankful for all the joys we had and accepting without a grudge all the pains we had and this gives us the courage to live in this imperfect world.
Dear Paula: I have recently come across literature which advocate the use of high doses of vitamin C to treat Cancer taking it alone (up 20 to 40 gm a day Intravenously ) or as adjunct to conventional chemotherapy and radiation.
Apparently, two-time Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling and other researchers and doctors have been shouting, for many years for use of this natural and completely harmless therapy but they were opposed by the medical establishment and pharmacy industry (some argue because it would harm the multi-billion cancer treatment industry). Please check it out for yourself and insist on using it as it is absolutely harmless.
http://acam.typepad.com/blog/2011/05/high-dose-vitamin-c-for-people-with-cancer-a-promising-adjunct-to-mainstream-cancer-treatment.html

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when you write i pay attention so i will take vitamin C. i can't wait till the book comes out with what you call "not poetry". You have had major events occur to you, including loss of your home country. You have explained it to me once and it was never mentiioned again. Peace and forgiveness are so much more everlasting.
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Paula - I reached out into the great expanse of the internet in 2002, and you grasped my hand. "Join us at Braintalk!" That was in March; in May I met you in DC at the PAN Forum (along with Jaye, Peg, Greg, AJ, Linda, Carol, Carl, Nan, Brenda, Perry, et al) We hung out at the Senate hearing and cheered Michael, Ali, Joan, and Milly. We tricked Bill Bell into getting our picture taken with Ole Isacson. And I believe we changed history.

You were my first comrade in advocacy; I learned so much from you - and we had so much fun! (Drinking Friday night wine while talking on the phone; peeing our pants at conferences; gatherings at Carol's house - Greg & AJ's wedding! watching Eddie Izzard! - scouting gators in an airboat when I visited you in Florida; eating Thai food with Bill when you came to Seattle) I always thought it was significant that we became friends from the opposite ends of the country; that we represented PD patients everywhere. You've been a huge influence in my life - and, I am certain, a huge influence in the lives of many, many others. Your life and the way you lived it made a difference. We are better off because of you.

It makes me both mad and sad that we don't have a cure; it makes no sense that this can be happening to you.

I know your faith is deep; that is a comfort to me as well as it is for you. I know without a doubt that I will see you again. The courage of the choices you are making now inspire me completely. I can't imagine the world without you.

I love you!


GOD: "i knew i should have clipped their wings; now where are those two ?
GOD ROARS: " Thelma"? "Louise? Come out of the black hole -it's getting dark."
Thelma: after recuperatin from the roar, said, " let's go or we might get our wings clipped and miss out on the safety and love 'hover' over our families."
Louise: still wobbling from head to toe from the roar, just nodded and fluttered and wobbled with Thelma all the way home.
GOD:always watching= allowed himself a smile. Children, he chuckled. God love them - you can count on it.
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GOD: "i knew i should have clipped their wings; now where are those two ?
GOD ROARS: " Thelma"? "Louise? Come out of the black hole -it's getting dark."
Thelma: after recuperatin from the roar, said, " let's go or we might get our wings clipped and miss out on the safety and love 'hover' over our families."
Louise: still wobbling from head to toe from the roar, just nodded and fluttered and wobbled with Thelma all the way home.
GOD:always watching= allowed himself a smile. Children, he chuckled. God love them - you can count on it.

It's been one sweet and bitter wild ride, hasn't it? Truly an adventure - one that I wouldn't have missed for the world -- the one glorious blessing of Parkinson's disease. A life of purpose shared with wonderful friends - lucky us!
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Default greg ......way out of the box

i was happy and honored to be asked to be in greg's wedding. my thrill turned to surprise as this was not going to be an ordinary wedding. i was asked to be on greg's side. brenda was 'best man' and carey and evan rounded out greg's side. i did my job as an escort for the groom's mother.

nan abraham was the matron and holly from peoria. i am sorry i can't remember who else was a bridesmaid. we wore black dresses on the groom's side but brenda rented the suit and went all out. AJ was radiant in her formal gown and we tried to ignore the kentucky heat.

greg's father performed the ceremony = a nice touch and special.

them when the wedding was finished we had to skip in a line with parasols and turn around for awhile up to the house. luckily.no one fell but Mike Vest's wife and she doesn't have pd, she fell off her chair.

This is one of a kind experience and one that will always be different. We all met at mgh.

memories are good but most all we laughed. and laughed..i can remember jaye was in the wedding and your friend from caliifornia. i forget carol's role =flowergirl?

i hope readers can smile now. love to you all and more heaped upon it.
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when you write i pay attention so i will take vitamin C. i can't wait till the book comes out with what you call "not poetry". You have had major events occur to you, including loss of your home country. You have explained it to me once and it was never mentiioned again. Peace and forgiveness are so much more everlasting.
Thank you Paula. I wish that you show the linked article to as many of your doctors as possible. Doctors have no time to read research but you can show it to them. The vitamin C cancer therapy requires dose of 20 to 40 gm daily given by IV.
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Your picture sits on my dresser. It was taken of “the wedding party” in Carol’s backyard (eight years ago yesterday): you, Carey, friend Evan, Brenda, Greg and me, Nan, Holly, and friend Sylvia, with Jaye sitting on the grass. But that was only some of the ”party.” Ann T was there, Mike Vest, Linda, Perry, Patty and Ron, Laura Jane, Peg, Carol’s niece who sang, Carol herself and Toadie too. The gathering was a continuing expression of the first time I met you, back in the summer of 2000 also at Carol’s, and Carl’s, where, amidst a lot of eating and drinking and talking, the gang practiced our “moves” to We Are Family for a performance at the John Lester Award Dinner/Roast in NYC on the Unity Walk weekend. But in my clearest and warmest memory of you at that first meeting you were standing behind me, just having come back inside from having a smoke, weighing in on the rather heated conversation as to the existence of God, a glass of white wine in your hand which you dyskinetically swung to and fro over my head as you declaimed. I have to confess, I began to pay a little less attention to your argument and more to my imminent drenching, but you never spilled that wine on me.

But, those are only a couple of my memory palaces that you inhabit. There’s singing “How does it feeeel?” while cruising around Maui; my warning to be careful of the sunglasses display in the Union, KY, grocery store only to hear a crash and turning to see you walking away, quickly and dyskinetically, laughing—holding a new pair of glasses; and our showing up the day before the World Parkinson’s Conference began halfway around the world in Scotland and to have you be the first person we ran into. And much more.

Many here have used words like strong, witty, smart, inspirational, brave to describe you. I ditto them all. Your mark has been deeply felt here in your steadfast devotion to the Forum(s), your constancy, your commitment to activism, from Grassroots Connection and your years as PAN’s Florida state rep to your work on Pipeliners and GDNF. Perhaps one of your crowning glories is “the book,” and your dedication to preserve the words of your peers. You never received the just recognition for your efforts, but your influence will live on in all the work we continue to do and all the play we can squeeze out of it.

I admire, respect, and love you for who you are as well as for the memories. Once again you are leading the advance and we will all follow, some sooner, some later. It is good to know that the dance will be held on both banks of the River Styx when the day comes.

See you there.

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