Hi Gerry,
I hope you are still doing great with the Mucuna-Tyrosene-D5-Cys protocole.
I was diagnosed in 2003, refused to undergo regular treatment and tried several alternative treatments, from acupuncture to stem cell treatment in Germany and finally mucuna and aminoacids.
A question for you: I have been in an almost similar protocol for over a year, with 1 additional teaspoon of Mucuna, 8 instead of your 7, D5 two daily capsules and Cys also six per day... but... I have not been doing great and I believe the problem is the Tyrosene, which I am actually in 6 Tablespoons daily. My doctor is away until the end of the month and I strongly believe that my intake of Tyrosene is way too high. Do you happen to know what an excess of Tyrosene can produce? I am not okay, on and off and not doing great, even though I went through a lot of laboratory tests, 6 of them, with no much improvement. I am still experimenting in the dosages with my doctor's approval.
What is your dosage nowadays? Any information will be greatly appreciated!.
Thank you!

I continue to do well on it. My doses ended up at 9 tsp Mucuna, 5 tbl Tyrosine, 5-HTP 1 capsule, and 6 capsules l-cysteine per day. Small variations in dosage, even a few hundred mg plus or minus, can unbalance and negate the results. I tried another tbl of Tyrosine but could not tolerate it. I have tried to cut back but that didn't work, either. Be sure to allow 5 days to judge the effect of a dosage change and have your doctor consult with doctor Hinz. It can take some time to get the balance.

Tyrosine is meant to eliminate the on-off episodes but the dose needs to be calibrated. BTW, the doctor's website has changed a lot. See www.neurosciencemyths.com.

Hey Gerry,

I am on the Hinz Protocol and doing very well. Started last summer 2014 and I'm still tweaking my dose a little. It took about 5 or 6 months to get me to what I describe as a night and day difference from where I started. My current dose is as follows: 37 grams of Mucuna (about 15 tsp) divided into 6 doses every 3 hrs. 32 grams of Tyrosine (4 tbl) mixed in with my mucuna, so it's divided into 6 doses as well. 3 capsules 5-HTP and 6 capsules L-Cysteine per day. Plus some B6 and Folic Acid. As you can see I'm on the higher side of the dosing averages. There in lies the problem. The Mucuna cost is killing me. I found a good quality tyrosine source that's much cheaper. I use about 4 tubs of Mucuna (270G) a month that cost me almost $200 a tub after you figure in shipping. That's about $800 a month just for Mucuna. I know you are a retired pharmacist and you've been able to purchase yours directly for a much better price. There was a recent price increase, I'm not sure if you experienced that. What are you paying for your Mucuna these days? Do you have any ideas at all on how I can cut my costs? I also don't feel really comfortable having only one source for Mucuna. What if they went out of business or something crazy. This works so well and I feel so much better I could never go back to the old meds. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Michael

Michael, you can get many suppliers @ alibaba.com of 40% Mucuna. There is a 25kg minimum which is dirt cheap compared to your current usage. 30USD$ per Kilogram x 25kg + F.O.B. About what your paying for a months supply.

Hi Badboy

I wonder about the quality of the product. The one I use is white and tasteless but the one in the photo, assuming that's what it is a picture of, is dark colored.

I love the Chinese. My late wife was from China and I am still close to her family. So it is not prejudice for me to say that I wouldn't trust their herbs which the FDA says are contaminated with heavy metals, etc. from a very polluted nation. If I buy from them, and the price is tempting, I will need some independent certificate of analysis. BTW, my wife would have agreed.

I agree. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas on how to find a Mucuna product I can trust as far as purity and potency? I take about 6g Mucuna 40% every three hours, 6 times a day, every day. You can surely understand my concern about having heavy metals and other contaminants. I also need to be sure the potency is what they say it is. This protocol is very dose-dependent. I can't be using something that's inconsistent or higher or lower in potency than what they are advertising. This is exactly why the doctors that developed this protocol started producing their own supplements. They found that the success of their program was being undermined by the inconsistent potency and quality of the supplements their patients were buying on their own. I'm sure that some of you believe that this entire protocol was developed just to sell and profit from supplement sales. I'm all for profits, but all I can tell you is that this protocol works. No one said being a pioneer would be easy.
Again, any help in finding a source for good quality bulk Mucuna would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Michael

They raised my Mucuna from $95 a tub to $218 and that is supposed to be wholesale! They said they were losing money at the old price. It looks like they are charging you less than me. I have the same concerns as you. I am afraid that the new prices will cause people to abandon what is a good program and drive them out of business. I am interested in cheaper sources, too.

Gerry

IS 37 GRAMS OF 40% MUCANA 14.8 GRAMS OF L-DOPA?
how in the world can anyone take 14.8 grams of l-dopa in one day? it has to be less than 40%. maybe i'm missing the boat.

heck, for $800 a month you could buy a green house and grow your own or pay a chemist to take bulk mucana and concentrate it or do it yourself.

Yes you can, apparently. Dr. Stein says he has had patients take as much as 100 g of mucuna 40% per day. You can learn more at www.neurosciencemyths.com. BTW, a jar of their mucuna 40% is equivalent to 900 capsules.

Yes, this is correct. And this is working better than anything I've tried. I'll try and reply with a little more detail later when I have more time. Pretty busy remodeling our condo right now.