[Horsegoer]

I bought my dad the Banyan Botanicals mucuna puriens and he has been taking about 1 tablespoon every morning but has been tired ever since taking it.could it be the Mucuna? Thanks

[reverett123]

Originally Posted by Horsegoer

I bought my dad the Banyan Botanicals mucuna puriens and he has been taking about 1 tablespoon every morning but has been tired ever since taking it.could it be the Mucuna? Thanks

As everyone is so fond of telling us, "Everyone is different." It would be nice to hear the occasional "Darned if I know!"

But to the point - Was your dad on Sinemet anytime previously? Requip or any other? When? And did he have similar problems with them?

Mucuna has, in addition to Ldopa, approx 200 or so other ingredients such as tryptophan some of which help with sleep. If your dad has sleep problems he may want to consider trade-offs with dosage and timing as well. Has he tried washing it down with a strong cup of coffee?

-Rick

[Horsegoer]

Originally Posted by reverett123

As everyone is so fond of telling us, "Everyone is different." It would be nice to hear the occasional "Darned if I know!"

But to the point - Was your dad on Sinemet anytime previously? Requip or any other? When? And did he have similar problems with them?

Mucuna has, in addition to Ldopa, approx 200 or so other ingredients such as tryptophan some of which help with sleep. If your dad has sleep problems he may want to consider trade-offs with dosage and timing as well. Has he tried washing it down with a strong cup of coffee?

-Rick

Thanks Rick. He says he gets tired now at about 3-4pm. He is taking Sinemet now and has been or a few years.

[reverett123]

Horsegoer-
If he is on a cycle with the nap as an anchor, that may be just where he needs to be. That is, rather than looking at it as loosing daylight, it might be more accurate to accept the daily nap as a blessing that is preventing more serious sleep problems.

If he is taking the mucuna with the sinamet then he is to a certain extent trying to compare apples with oranges. If he is determined to try to improve things while resisting a nap then he might consider cutting the sinamet as he (slowly) increases the MP. Worth a try but if it is a case of stubborn will refusing to accept that limitations come with age regardless of PD then you have your work cut out for you. Good luck. - Rick

Originally Posted by Horsegoer

Thanks Rick. He says he gets tired now at about 3-4pm. He is taking Sinemet now and has been or a few years.

[GerryW]

For what it's worth, I take 7 tsps. a day of Mucuna (40% L-dopa) as part of the Hinz protocol and it does not cause fatigue in me.

[Horsegoer]

Originally Posted by GerryW

For what it's worth, I take 7 tsps. a day of Mucuna (40% L-dopa) as part of the Hinz protocol and it does not cause fatigue in me.

Spread throughout the day?

[Horsegoer]

Originally Posted by reverett123

Horsegoer-
If he is on a cycle with the nap as an anchor, that may be just where he needs to be. That is, rather than looking at it as loosing daylight, it might be more accurate to accept the daily nap as a blessing that is preventing more serious sleep problems.

If he is taking the mucuna with the sinamet then he is to a certain extent trying to compare apples with oranges. If he is determined to try to improve things while resisting a nap then he might consider cutting the sinamet as he (slowly) increases the MP. Worth a try but if it is a case of stubborn will refusing to accept that limitations come with age regardless of PD then you have your work cut out for you. Good luck. - Rick

He takes no nap but I don't really know what you re saying....

[reverett123]

Actually, I seem to have just made it up altogether. Well, they can't all be great ones I guess.

It sounds like some trial and error is called for. Tinker with doses, activity levels, etc looking for a pattern.
-Rick

Originally Posted by Horsegoer

He takes no nap but I don't really know what you re saying....

[GerryW]

Originally Posted by Horsegoer

Spread throughout the day?

2 in the morning, 2 at 1 PM, 2 at 4 PM and 1 at 7 PM

[Horsegoer]

Originally Posted by reverett123

Actually, I seem to have just made it up altogether. Well, they can't all be great ones I guess.

It sounds like some trial and error is called for. Tinker with doses, activity levels, etc looking for a pattern.
-Rick

Alrighty then....thanks!!