Originally Posted by zanpar321 (Post 1051833)

Yes, sinemet (which uses pure 100% L-Dopa) allows more dopamine to be put to work in the brain due to carbodopa. The Hinz protocol is absent the carbodopa so again large quantities are required. In the protocol,Tyrosine is also used to apparently allow less L-dopa to be required. Folic acid, cysteine, vitamin C are also added to the mix to do the job of alleviating symptoms. L-dopa over time increases homocysteine and apparently kills even more dopamineric neurons which is why the above additional ingredients are required. Taking raw macuna puren beans which contain less than 10% L-dopa would require huge quantities to have the same effect as 40% L-dopa. That's my understanding anyway. I suggest you talk to a Hinz protocol Dr for more accurate info.

Originally Posted by zanpar321 (Post 1051378)

No I haven't. How can I get a Datscan done?

Originally Posted by soccertese (Post 1051836)

l-dopa kills neurons? where are you getting that from?
i'd be glad to contact the HINZ doctor that you used to find out about the 40% mucana.

Originally Posted by zanpar321 (Post 1051858)

The computer with my data on the Hintz doctor crashed a few months back so I can't retrieve his name. I believe he was in Florida. Need to get some work done before I can look further.

Originally Posted by zanpar321 (Post 1051858)

The computer with my data on the Hintz doctor crashed a few months back so I can't retrieve his name. I believe he was in Florida. Need to get some work done before I can look further.

Here are several links on L-Dopa and damage. I read a better reference a few days ago but can't find it now. I hope this helps. Supplementing B-12, folates seems to be important.

Parkinson disease: Long-term levodopa exposure may increase risk of neuropathy in patients with PD

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23917846

Levodopa, vitamins, ageing and the neuropathy of Parkinson's disease

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23989342

Originally Posted by badboy99 (Post 1051838)

Your doctor orders one for you.

Originally Posted by soccertese (Post 1051814)

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gary, that article means nothing to me. sorry. it's in rats and in 1 part of the experiment they compare mucana against l-dopa by itself, that proves nothing. plus you can just modify your dose/timing with sinemet, you can't just look at 1 or 2 factors. there's price, convienence, purity, etc.

as far as 40% l-dopa, your're taking 9tsps every 3 hrs? if 40% that would mean that you are taking more than 3tsps of l-dopa in every dose. the normal dose of l-dopa is 100mg every 3 hrs in admittedly a compressed pill.

here's my calculation, i picked whole wheat to estimate the weight/cup of a grain as a starting point.
1lb=3.3cups
48tsps in 1 cup
474grams in 1lb
1lb/3.3cups = .30lbs/cup x 48tsp/cup = .0063 lb/tsp x 473gram/lb = 3grams/tsp x .40grams l-dopa/gram = 1.2grams of l-dopa/tsp of mucana

so you are taking 3.6grams of l-dopa per dose? the normal dose for sinemet is 100mg l-dopa.

maybe my calculations are off but common sense would tell you that 40% l-dopa in mucana makes no sense. as far as evolution goes, that makes no sense for a plant, the reason the plant has l-dopa i assume is as a defense mechanism, animals avoid it because they get dizzy when they eat it but 40% would be overkill, natural selection would have selected against it.

i apologize if my calculations are off.

Originally Posted by zanpar321 (Post 1051874)

The Hinz protocol Doc was Alvin Stein. Very interesting protcol and Doc and staff were great.

http://www.steinorthopedic.com/pdf/aminoacidtherapy.pdf