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06-23-2015, 12:46 PM | #3 | ||
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Much is poorly understood about the gut/brain connection.
A study in Finland found that PD patients have a very different makeup of gut bacteria. Here's a link .. http://www.alphagalileo.org/ViewItem...CultureCode=en In short, entero bacteria is toxic and PD patients have tons of it, whereas the normal person does not. Also PD patients are very light on lacto bacteria, which produces lactic acid to control toxins in the gut. I previously wrote about this issue here, including way to get your gut bacteria tested cheap .. I have not done it yet (still digesting my 23andme results!) http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread221379.html Also, after reading up on gut bacteria I have found that parmigiano reggiano cheese (aged at least 24 months) has massive amounts of a lacto bacteria that suppresses the entero bacteria. I've been doing this cheese for about 2 weeks and my metabolism has changed a bit. I eat the cheese (very tasty BTW) before bed and in the AM I feel the urge when I get up. It must be doing something. BTW, I do NOT have constipation as a PD symptom. This is NOT Parmesan Cheese, which is a faked up version of the original and made in a number of different ways. Anyways, I'm just writing this out of my head so I may not have the exact names of the bacteria correct .. there are tons of different strains but there you go. We are getting more and more data pointing to the gut as the source of at least one kind of PD anyway. Fight it on all fronts!
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06-23-2015, 01:03 PM | #4 | ||
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I think this is correct. We have known for some time that Lewy Bodies have been found in the gut, and before PD symptoms appeared. Why are they there, though? A virus, bacteria, or, more likely, as the recent study showing PWP had a significantly different gut biome than non-PWP, an imbalance of good gut biome to bad. As more and more research comes out about this, I think we may really begin to understand the importance of "you are what you eat". And its corollary: you are also how much you eat
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06-23-2015, 03:15 PM | #5 | ||
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06-23-2015, 03:15 PM | #6 | ||
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06-23-2015, 03:18 PM | #7 | ||
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The idea that has me interested in bad gut bacteria theory is the overgrowth of candida.I'm starting a candida diet. It certainly can't hurt to try. I have eliminated sugar, simple carbs and alcohol so far. Not that I was much of a drinker but I do like a cold beer on a warm day . There are definitely accounts of pwp and a connection to the gut. The candida fight your body for good nutrients thereby allowing toxins to flourish as your body can't fight it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17051898 I have had signs of candidiasis prior to being diagnosed. I have had Tinea Versicolor (fungus on the skin), toenail fungus and oral thrush. The oral thrush was with a really bad cold. A few years before my symptoms I had Salmonella from traveling to Mumbai. I was given antibiotics which candida loves. Who knows, was that a starting point? That was a few years prior to being diagnosed. I'm not a huge sugar eater but I love simple carbs. What's the connection to the brain? Maybe the vagus nerve. /150623103609.htmhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0623103609.htm There are also anecdotal cases of pwp taking anti-fungal meds and doing very well until they stop. Kind of like cutting the grass with weeds and not addressing the weeds with anything, they will return. |
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06-23-2015, 04:24 PM | #8 | ||
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06-23-2015, 06:05 PM | #9 | ||
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To knock out candida QUICKLY get some caprylic acid (a supplement from coconut oil). I took two of these 3 times a day for 3 or 4 days and it blew it out. Then I stepped back to just a few more times. On day two my metabolism changed entirely, for the better in ways I don't want to describe here. PM me if you want and I'll share. I used Capryl by Solaray. Those diets will take forever, almost literally, but you do want to eat healthy of course. I suspect that I had candida for over a decade. If you have candida, and it sounds very likely, you might want to read about what I did afterwards here .. http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread218079.html Your experience may be very close to mine. I have almost completely "normalized" with B vitamins, which I believe that candida in my small intestine kept me from absorbing. Some bacteria actually feed off of them too. I'm still reminded that I have some form of PD, and I still tremor a fair bit under stress, but that's my main things now instead of everything else. Oh and I still have bad RLS.
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06-23-2015, 06:26 PM | #10 | ||
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I'm not challenged with PD, but believe MOST health issues begin in the gut. And am of the thinking Grape Seed Extract can help just about every health issue to mankind. I'm headed into my 20th yr on grape seed ex and or Pycnogenol and have 20 yrs of good health....outside of advanced OA which is all worsened since hip replacment. Another story.
Grape seed extract works to reduce free radicals in our bodies... The main reason I got on Pycnogenol and then a year later got on Grape Seed Ex, we were told it "MAY" prevent cancer....I have a link on the city of hope and grape seed extract here, it's either in meds/treatments or vits/supps... Personally I've used caprylic acid and use coconut oil daily for everything, eat it from the spoon as well..As for candida, my sister has declined with MS and one of the best things for MS people is to rid candida, she didn't work with that and ate so much of the wrong foods. Did some searching and found this to read over from another source: http://www.herbnet.com/.../asktheher...parkinsons.htm QUESTION: My father-in-law has Parkinson's Disease. We are looking for any help with ... grape seed extract, 3 pills two times daily. Look at cleansing diet, and ... I see this does not open, gets frustrating. How I found this link was to google: parkinson's disease and grape seed extract and it's the herbNET site...they talk about other supps but emphasize grape seed ex....just thinking about my decades of it's use....who knows how much it can help other issues. So much unknown. Last edited by caroline2; 06-24-2015 at 12:25 PM. |
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