Parkinson's Disease Tulip


advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-18-2012, 09:04 PM #1
olsen's Avatar
olsen olsen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,860
15 yr Member
olsen olsen is offline
Senior Member
olsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,860
15 yr Member
Default methylene blue and Tau

The brain man
BY: JEANNE WHALEN From: The Wall Street Journal November 19, 2012

SOME people collect stamps, others vintage cars. As a young PhD student at the University of Cambridge in the 1980s, Claude Wischik was on a mission to collect brains.

It wasn't easy. At the time, few organ banks kept entire brains. But Wischik, an Australian who was in his early 30s at the time, was trying to answer a riddle still puzzling the scientific community: what causes Alzheimer's disease?..


In his lifelong investigation, Wischik has backed a minority scientific view that a protein called tau - which forms twisted fibres known as tangles inside the brain cells of Alzheimer's patients - is largely responsible for driving the disease...

The company Wischik co-founded 10 years ago, TauRx Pharmaceuticals, is based in Singapore but conducts most of its research in Scotland, where he now lives. As his tau effort was launched, early tests of drugs designed to attack amyloid plaques were disappointing...

In 2004 TauRx began a clinical trial of its drug, called methylene blue, in 332 Alzheimer's patients...



But TauRx did not publish a full set of data from the trial and this led to some scepticism among researchers. (Wischik says it didn't protect the company's commercial interests.)

What's more, a higher, 100mg dose of the drug didn't produce the same positive effects in patients. Wischik blames this on the way the 100mg dose was formulated and says the company is testing a tweaked version of the drug in its new clinical trials, which will begin enrolling patients this year.

With its new clinical trial program under way, TauRx is the first company to test a tau-targeted drug against Alzheimer's in a large human study, known in the industry as a phase 3 trial.

Wischik admits he may be just as much a zealot about tau as he accuses others of being about beta amyloid. "I may be," he says. "In the end ... it's down to the phase three trial."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...-1226519142271
__________________
In the last analysis, we see only what we are ready to see, what we have been taught to see. We eliminate and ignore everything that is not a part of our prejudices.

~ Jean-Martin Charcot


The future is already here — it's just not very evenly distributed. William Gibson
olsen is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
sim00 (11-19-2012)

advertisement
Old 11-19-2012, 01:18 AM #2
VICTORIALOU's Avatar
VICTORIALOU VICTORIALOU is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 241
10 yr Member
VICTORIALOU VICTORIALOU is offline
Member
VICTORIALOU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 241
10 yr Member
Default new link to article above

This link should get you there
__________________
VictoriaLou
.
VICTORIALOU is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
olsen (11-19-2012), sim00 (11-19-2012)
Old 11-20-2012, 01:29 PM #3
soccertese soccertese is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,531
15 yr Member
soccertese soccertese is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,531
15 yr Member
Default TauRx nabs $112M to back Phase III Alzheimer's program Read more: TauRx nabs $112M t

http://www.fiercebiotech.com/story/t...ource=internal
soccertese is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
sim00 (11-20-2012)
Old 11-20-2012, 02:50 PM #4
reverett123's Avatar
reverett123 reverett123 is offline
In Remembrance
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,772
15 yr Member
reverett123 reverett123 is offline
In Remembrance
reverett123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,772
15 yr Member
Default methyline blue is *their* drug?

Interesting wording in that Wall Street Journal piece. I wonder what led the reporter to drop that little stone in the pond with no more? Also, it seems that the good doctor has reason to be cynical about honor among scientists and to desire to raise clouds at every opportunity until he gets maximum patent security. These guys are definitely on to something. The fact that $300 million just walked through the door kind of confirms it as well.

This quote is interesting as well. He pretty well admits to stirring things up to muddy the gold fish bowl, as it were. But it also gives the first clue to the dosages that everyone was wondering about-
"The TauRx results Dr. Wischik presented were more positive, though not unequivocal. The study showed that, after 50 weeks of treatment, Alzheimer's patients taking a placebo had fallen 7.8 points on a test of cognitive function, while people taking 60 mg of TauRx's drug three times a day had fallen one point—translating into an 87% reduction in the rate of decline for people taking the TauRx drug.

But TauRx didn't publish a full set of data from the trial, causing some skepticism among researchers. (Dr. Wischik says it didn't to protect the company's commercial interests). What's more, a higher, 100-mg dose of the drug didn't produce the same positive effects in patients; Dr. Wischik blames this on the way the 100-mg dose was formulated, and says the company is testing a tweaked version of the drug in its new clinical trials, which will begin enrolling patients late this year. "

So, initially they tried 60 mg x 3 daily and saw progress. Then they tried a 100 mg dose with maybe a different spacing or an extended release or something and were disappointed.

Very interesting indeed. At some point I am going to tire of waiting for the AD group and go down to the local pet shop and tell them I have a real sick gold fish.....
__________________
Born in 1953, 1st symptoms and misdiagnosed as essential tremor in 1992. Dx with PD in 2000.
Currently (2011) taking 200/50 Sinemet CR 8 times a day + 10/100 Sinemet 3 times a day. Functional 90% of waking day but fragile. Failure at exercise but still trying. Constantly experimenting. Beta blocker and ACE inhibitor at present. Currently (01/2013) taking ldopa/carbadopa 200/50 CR six times a day + 10/100 form 3 times daily. Functional 90% of day. Update 04/2013: L/C 200/50 8x; Beta Blocker; ACE Inhib; Ginger; Turmeric; Creatine; Magnesium; Potassium. Doing well.
reverett123 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 11-20-2012, 04:34 PM #5
reverett123's Avatar
reverett123 reverett123 is offline
In Remembrance
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,772
15 yr Member
reverett123 reverett123 is offline
In Remembrance
reverett123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,772
15 yr Member
Default Anyone familiar with fulvic acid?

I wasn't familiar with it but it seems to prevent and dissolve tau protein. Health food store stuff.
__________________
Born in 1953, 1st symptoms and misdiagnosed as essential tremor in 1992. Dx with PD in 2000.
Currently (2011) taking 200/50 Sinemet CR 8 times a day + 10/100 Sinemet 3 times a day. Functional 90% of waking day but fragile. Failure at exercise but still trying. Constantly experimenting. Beta blocker and ACE inhibitor at present. Currently (01/2013) taking ldopa/carbadopa 200/50 CR six times a day + 10/100 form 3 times daily. Functional 90% of day. Update 04/2013: L/C 200/50 8x; Beta Blocker; ACE Inhib; Ginger; Turmeric; Creatine; Magnesium; Potassium. Doing well.
reverett123 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 09:14 AM #6
VICTORIALOU's Avatar
VICTORIALOU VICTORIALOU is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 241
10 yr Member
VICTORIALOU VICTORIALOU is offline
Member
VICTORIALOU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 241
10 yr Member
Default fulvic acid

It is a major ingredient in an agricultural fertilizer from China called Shenmingsu- made by Yongye International.

"Fulvic acid is extracted from humic acids. The Company obtains its humic acids from lignite coal which is also known as Leonardite Coal. China has approximately 12% of the world’s Leonardite Coal reserves (World Energy Council) and 250MM tons much of this is found in Inner Mongolia (from company report).

Fulvic acid strengthens the cell walls of plants and animals and acts as a transport mechanism to speed the absorption of essential minerals and nutrients by cells while promoting cell formation.
The Company adds to this base its own mixture of macro and micro nutrients to ensure plant growth. These formulas help bind and stabilize the light weight molecules in fulvic acid with the additional components and stabilize it for use on crops. (company report)

The Company’s current universal plant nutrient product is a liquid nutrient which is applied via a foliar spray. Yongye now has two patents pending for this mixture and stabilization process in its plant and animal nutrient products."


Quote:
Originally Posted by reverett123 View Post
I wasn't familiar with it but it seems to prevent and dissolve tau protein. Health food store stuff.
__________________
VictoriaLou
.
VICTORIALOU is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-28-2016, 03:01 PM #7
aquario aquario is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: northern calif
Posts: 209
15 yr Member
aquario aquario is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: northern calif
Posts: 209
15 yr Member
Default more on Mehtyline Blue

Page Not Found!
aquario is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
some relatively recent info on methylene blue reverett123 Parkinson's Disease 4 10-25-2012 09:20 AM
Methylene Blue VICTORIALOU Parkinson's Disease 5 10-30-2011 11:28 PM
Methylene blue clinical trial in Canada... lurkingforacure Parkinson's Disease 1 06-30-2009 07:34 PM
methylene blue olsen Parkinson's Disease 6 06-28-2009 09:49 AM
Methylene Blue rd42 Parkinson's Disease 6 02-25-2009 04:46 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:04 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.