[pdinfo]

Did one of us travelled to Germany last year to check this thing called permanent acupuncture?
because is growiing. Check it out by googling "permanent acupuncture parkinson's"

Does anybody have first hand experience with permanent acupuncture, positive, negative or so-so?

PS: here is the link: http://www.werththerapie.de/en/index.html

[chasmo]

the consensus of opinion was that it was a ripoff.

Lonnie Ali did not mention it as a alternative treatment in her talk at YOPN.

Charlie

[pdinfo]

I squeezed my brain (little left, all fried) for the memories and think it was a forum participant nicknamed "eyeall" or some such, who reported having gone to Germany, getting the needle implants, getting some results but who wanted to get some time under h...belt to discard placebo effects, detail benefits and durability thereof, if any. Unfortunately, that was when the old Bt forums went down, taking all current threads and archives with them to never-never land and many a forum member, too, including, apparently "eyeall" (hope I'm correct). Perhaps somebody out there is reading this post, yet "eyeall" h...self or knows h.. or of knows of h... and can ask h... kindly to fill us in. After all, it is always good to debunk or confirm any claims which can harm or benefit us all, considering that this Dr. Werth is claiming and shows them in one of his site videos to have treated some "personalities" such as a member of the Swedish royal family and some big name from the Gulf Emirates, that spring to mind, and that's why he launches his open challenge to treat such a big name as Ali in front of TV cameras for all the world to see. I think, he also mentions he hopes to treat MJF pretty soon, but I will watch them videos again to make sure.

[Eyal]

Yes, I went last year, and it seemed to work for a while (a few months) but then back to degeneration as usual unfortunately. So, either placebo or it just temporarily worked. Can't really say if it is bogus or not. But, I don't like that he could only give me two references for people treated over one year ago, one of which is his poster child, Mrs. Kaiser. With over 3000 patients, he should be able to rattle them off by the dozens. I would say that if at this point, he can't provide five good references that are at least one year old, I would be weary.

Good luck!

Eyal

[pdinfo]

"Seemed to work for a few months"
Could you be more specific?
One testimonial only?
That seems a very weak support for his claim.
Did he impressed you as an honest person?

[chasmo]

that this doctors license was pulled by German authorities for his promotion of this treatment. I'd steer clear of him.

Charlie