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05-21-2009, 08:25 AM | #21 | |||
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I agree that some people go bonkers with soy.
Some Vegans depend on it. Some people eat it more than once a day. I eat very little soy...Edamame beans occasionally, maybe once a week if that. I sometimes have some soy sauce on my sushi, but the sauce really doesn't count--one little packet a week or so. And I have never bought foods for my cats that had soy on the labels. I have hypothyroidism, one of my previous cats had thyroid cancer, and my middle cat is allergic and cannot have vaccines. She has had 2 vaccine reactions, one last spring that almost killed her. I personally think vaccines are very problematic for both pets and people. Cats now have 2 fatal diseases linked to vaccines. 1) vaccination induced sarcoma 2) kidney failure from distemper boosters. People think they are doing the right thing getting shots for their cats and dogs every year, and those vaccines are in reality killing the animals! We humans need to pay attention to this and look at our own vaccines!
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05-21-2009, 08:37 AM | #22 | ||
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Yes, I don't think a packet of soy sauce is a problem at all. They say that fermented soy is safe....but the problem with soy is that even if we don't think we're eating it, it's in 60 percent (at least) of processed foods at the supermarket, and restaurants use it even way more. SO we're totally not aware of how much we're consuming really. Even many "virgin olive oils", especially those from Italy, have been found to actually contain a high degree of soy oil instead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An industry take on the subject: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/DuPont...in-a0103384430 |
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05-21-2009, 08:56 AM | #23 | |||
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Soy sauce contains free glutamte--accounts for its flavor enhancing properties.
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05-21-2009, 04:20 PM | #24 | |||
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Phytoestrogens are found in almost all foods and animals.
Even snails and seafoods. They are far less potent than estrogens that mammals use. I think it is a matter of "degree". I personally don't agree with heavy intake of soy protein to replace animal protein. But that is my opinion. I think that the soy oil, is far less problematic than the protein portion.
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05-21-2009, 05:57 PM | #25 | ||
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I have been reading about the ever-increasing numbers of vaccines being "required" and firmly believe they set in motion a lot of chronic conditions, and simoulaneously do NOT confer the immunity/protections they claim. It's a bad deal all the way around. There are a lot of books out there about it, one is called "Vaccine Safety Manual" and it's a very analytical look at the various vaccines, what is in them, what they are designed to protect against, and how effective they really are historically. Every parent should read this book before they have a child.
If one really knew what was in the vaccines, they would more likely than not choose not to vaccinate their kid. Or at least wait until the child's immune system, and BBB, were fully developed (around age 6-7, to be safe), and never more than one vaccine at a time, without thimerisol, when the child was completely healthy, free of fever, etc. I used to think it was just Big Pharma behind the vaccine push, but then realized that hey, if you dont' vaccinate your kid beginning at birth, you aren't running to the pediatrician's office several times a year, either...so I think the pediatricians are behind the greed as well. If you don't agree, just see the reaction you get from your doctor if you mention you are going to delay (or forgo completely) vaccines, OMG, it can get ugly. Just think, if you don't vaccinate the first few years of life, you don't really need to go the pediatrician AT ALL unless your child is sick, and that's a lot of revenue to miss...one or two visits, maybe, instead of ten to twelve (at $150.00 a pop!) Pediatricians and Big Pharma both have huge incentives to keep the vaccine mill alive and going. It is like the old days of home buying: patient beware. As for animals, I read that with great danes (we have one), they are now recommending that vaccines not be given until several weeks LATER than traditionally given, because they have found that that few weeks delay results in a significantly reduced risk of developing cancer later. I never thought about a connection between human vaccination and cancer, but clearly, if vaccines can cause cancer (or increase the risk of it) in dogs, what might they be doing to humans? I wonder. |
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05-21-2009, 08:21 PM | #26 | |||
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There is a summary of 2 separate studies concerning immune cells which has direct implication for the use of vaccines, and why they may result in inadequate protection or in dire effects. The summary appears in New Scientist magazine:] http://www.wemove.org/stayconnected/article.asp?ID=1161 Seems the immune system may be a lot more flexible than previously thought--Initially, T-helper (Th) cells were thought to be of 2 types: Th1 which sent viruses and bacteria from host cells and Th2 cells that fought parasites and bacteria in blood in other body fluids and also fought allergens. 2 new classes of cells were discovered: regulatory T cells (T-regs) which attenuate the immune system response and Th17 cells that trigger inflammation and autoimmunity. Problem with this categorization was discovered when the T-regs behaved like Th1 cells when the T-regs cells were exposed to the molecules that normally result in a Th response. (Immunity, COI:10:1016/j.immuni.2008.12.009). Whoops-- In addition, study by Casey Weaver at Univ of Alabama showed that "Th17 cells can also morph into Th1-like cells" under certain conditions. Article concludes that "if Th1 cells are equally flexible, vaccines may not work as they are intended, says Christopher Wilson of the Univ of Washington State in Seattle. For instance, if a vaccine against a virus triggers a Th1 response but the Th1 cells change their identity for some reason, 'the pathogen might yet subvert the protection induced by the vaccine', he says Occurs to me that vaccines may result in immune responses in which the correct immune cell morphs into the wrong cell--causing inflammation or autoimmunity when none was wanted.......author cites the safety study in which 6 individuals in Northwick park hosp in london in March, 06 were given a drug that was to activate T-reg cells, but instead they were made seriously ill. Perhaps the T-regs morphed into Th17 causing an autoimmune response????
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05-22-2009, 06:06 AM | #27 | ||
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I am not on any particular diet but probably should be. I have heard that people on CRD live longer...something about reducing oxidative stress on cells. I am likely on CRD as I have largely lost my appetite and have difficulty manipulating and swallowing my food, not to mention cooking. I have lost 30+ pounds in the last 2 years unintentionally and am a bit concerned that I will keep losing (103 lbs at 5'7"). Does anyone have any advice and/or know about CRD?
BTW, I have been reading your posts, lurkingforacure and reverett123 for months. This site ** helped me to self diagnose my PD months before a neurologist did and made me feel less alone. Thank you! Last edited by Chemar; 05-22-2009 at 08:06 AM. Reason: NT guidelines on website redirects by new members |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | reverett123 (05-22-2009) |
05-22-2009, 07:14 AM | #28 | |||
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Wow....olsen! What a great resource! I know someone who is having this very problem...elevated T cells. I am sending her your info! Thanks a bunch!
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05-22-2009, 07:34 AM | #29 | |||
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Yesterday was another good one. Two off periods of about half an hour each. One of those my own fault for putting off breakfast.
Starting out well this morning. On in 30 minutes. No curly toes.
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05-22-2009, 03:20 PM | #30 | ||
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