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Yes, you can.... I'll get you examples today some time.

I'll edit this thread...so look in later.

Some magnet suppliers have low prices, but they hit you with a service fee say for items less than $20-50. Also shipping is a factor.

I have found 4 suppliers on Ebay which are more affordable. I hope you are active there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/5-STRONG-Neodymi...item1c117a0d37
1.5in-- this is larger than I use, and thicker. But stronger.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120550055996
1 inch -- a good price for 10 including shipping Same size as I use, and you will have to determine the polarity

plastic coated
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Neodymium-Mag...-4-x-1-8-Disc-
N48_W0QQitemZ360091715556QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item53d72387e4
PLASTIC-COATED- these are 3/4 in before coating. They may appeal to you since they are less likely to cause magnet burns. But they are thicker because of the coating. These are slightly smaller than the one I use.


best price size uncoated:
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Neodymium-Mag...item2eac08801e

I like this last one the best. The size is right, the price is right.
You will have to put some moleskin on the pole toward the body. You will have to determine the S pole yourself. This is the size I use.

I bought mine at a computer supply place...you know a build your own... 5 of them + shipping for about $10 a few years ago. They were being discontinued then. I bought the last of them.

I cover my bare magnets with surgical tape, and replace it when worn and icky, and mark the S pole. The polarity is easy for me to figure out, since the wrong pole (N) causes more pain, or at least buzzing feelings.

The belts typically use 1/2 inch neodymiums, many of them. Seagem who posted here for a while bought an expensive belt that was really strong. I wonder how he is doing. Some people don't come back after they find their answers tho.
This is the belt he bought:
http://www.drbakstmagnetics.com/inde...=62&Itemid=315
he bought the most expensive one...which is onsale now.
The belt is less flexible for use IMO.... I use my magnets in alot of places on the body.

The quadrablocs have 4 --1/2 inch neos in them, two poles up and 2 down, in an X pattern . That was the type studied by the doctor at Vanderbilt. They are covered in plastic for longevity etc. They are the most expensive, IMO. But they have over a decade in use etc.

I find these large really strong ones, you don't have to wear all the time to get benefit. I only wear them at night typically. I don't want them near the computer, etc.
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Thanks for taking the time to give me so much good advice. The listing for the plastic-coated magnets from ebay was removed, but I did find another set of 10, so ordered that.

I already have surgical tape and ace bandage, so I'll be all set when the magnets come in.

I like the photo in your signature. Is that periwinkle? We have 12 different gardens in our yard (most around trees) that we mulch every year. Last year I decided on "natural" mulch, so we planted 1000 periwinkle plants as ground cover for most of the gardens, and planted strawberries in the rest. The periwinkle isn't that thick yet, but almost all the plants have blooms on them. I'm hoping it will spread and thicken this year. In the meantime, it looks like mulch again this year.
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The photo is of scilla (Siberian squill)... a little bulb with a short life but very beautiful. They reseed and spread quickly.

When we moved in here there was a patch by the back door about 6ft by 4 ft. It is now moving thru our whole yard. (almost a 1/4 of an acre --the yard is 1/2 acre--- and when it blooms all at once it is a total blue carpet. Then the leaves die back and for about 10 days are slimey and icky...but I think it is worth it.
So hubby rakes in the direction away from the house, and the seeds disperse outward.

The ants also carry the seeds around. I used to sit out on the front steps down in front (we live on a hill), with my son and wait for Daddy to come home from work. I'd watch the black ants carrying the seeds around! Some get stored, and some planted that way. We have the scilla in the rock gardens down in front from that method of dispersal too!

I put my garden things in my siggie (and sometimes avatar) all during the growing season....you see them soon!

scilla:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scilla

http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/p....asp?code=R160

http://www.theplantexpert.com/springbulbs/Scilla2.html
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Sometimes I have to wonder about myself. My magnets arrived today, and I was so anxious to try them out, I thought the mid-day nap would be appropriate. So, I quickly scanned this thread, pulled out my surgical tape and ace bandage, and went to work on my first attempt at using the magnets for my lower back. And, I do mean Work! After 15 minutes I was so exhausted, I fell into bed sans magnets.

Let’s start with the fact that the magnets came in a roll, like a roll of nickels. Of course they were magnetized together, and my fingers just didn’t want to rise to the challenge of prying them apart. And, when I would finally get one pried loose from the roll, it would snap right back. It only took my brain about 20 attempts (may be an exaggeration) to realize that I had to place the newly freed magnet about 5” from the roll to lessen its strong desire to return.

All this, Cagney & Lacy (my Avator) found extremely fascinating. They would creep closer for a better look, only to jump back again when the magnet snapped back to the roll.

Once I got the hang of prying the magnets apart, I started to place them on the tape. This is where actually reading would have come in handy.

I laid out one long strip of tape, and attempted to place the magnets on the tape side by side. But, they kept escaping the tape and snapping together. I finally figured out that if I placed them an inch apart, it curbed their desire for companionship. When I had finally succeeded in getting 5 magnets placed on the tape, I was ready to tape the strip to my back.

I picked up one end of the strip, and snap, snap, snap. The tape folded accordion-style between the roll of magnets. My attempt to straighten the tape back out, was what finally ended today’s experiment. I took hold of each end of the strip and pulled. The magnets flew off the tape, clattering against towel rack, commode and sink. Thank god one didn’t venture near the window.

If the bathroom door had been open, Cagney & Lacy would have bolted through in their mad scramble to escape flying magnets. Instead, they both took to the bathtub, where they found one of the errant magnets had landed. I left them trying to pry it loose from the tub drain, while I recovered with a nap. Their success was no better than mine had been with the roll. The darn thing kept snapping back to the drain. They were still playing with it when I woke.

If nothing else, I have found a great way to keep them entertained.
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It is like they are "alive".... I know.

You really should start with just ONE.

I rarely use more than one anyway. These guys are strong and penetrate 6in. You don't need them in a row. Nail the right nerve and one is plenty.

Twisting to remove from the stack is best...twist or slide. The coating helps...it is far worse with uncoated ones like I have.

I also keep a bit of the tape to overlap the diameter of the magnet and use that as a handle. Twice folded on itself, it works quite well.

The websites on Ebay all have warnings on them about how to handle the strong aspect of them. I have mine in a little plastic box, and once during the night it grabbed a paper clip you know the type with handles, and snapped it in the night across the table and woke me up! Keeping them in the sock drawer is handy, since metal is not normally in that drawer. They are safely away from other things, and computers, etc.

You know where I just saw on TV another odd use for these strong magnets? The show Meteorite Men, on the Science Channel? They put 3 of those neodymiums on the head of their dirt pick, and when a piece of meteorite is in the ground it jumps up and sticks to the magnets. They showed a closeup of this process many times on the shows. I love that show...the guys are funny and the situations funky and in the end they take the ones they found and get scientific analysis and evaluation. I always get thirsty watching them suffer out in the desert! LOL
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Thanks mrsD.

Using only one sounds so much easier, and that will leave me with 9 for kitty playthings.

So, for lower back pain - would I place it directly over the sore spot, or somewhat above? below?
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Where does the back hurt? Is it sciatica? That would be at about L4 one inch from the midline. After an hour or so if there is no change move it an inch more and experiment to find your "hot spot". Change in feeling is pretty quick with these, so nothing is lost except a bit of time.

Tailbone area? Then about one inch from your "butt crack" and about 1 inch right or left depending on the side that bothers you.

These work best for radiating pain... I'd try them on your feet.
One foot at a time. Using the map and 3D link, place one over a major nerve at the ankle, and see what happens. Red side down.
I have used a magnet above the ankle bone and below, just before the arch. If you have pain that goes to the the big toe, the inside medial area is best.
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Separating magnets in a roll may seem impossible If you do not know this trick.
If the magnets come with separators this is even more important because if they are that strong they may shatter or you may not be able to get them apart if they slam together.
Place the roll on the edge of a counter or table with a sharp edge and away from any metal parts. with the desired separation point on the edge hold the roll firmly and slide the magnet off below the edge then keep them widely separated.
Using more than one magnet at a time can be problematic because the can slam together with a force of 100 pounds and cut skin and garments. You may notice that if you back up against an appliance that you become a refrigerator magnet.
@ the thread starter you need a therapist ** to locate the stress points to place the magnets. It may not be where the pain symptom is located.
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Sometimes I have to wonder about myself. My magnets arrived today, and I was so anxious to try them out, I thought the mid-day nap would be appropriate. So, I quickly scanned this thread, pulled out my surgical tape and ace bandage, and went to work on my first attempt at using the magnets for my lower back. And, I do mean Work! After 15 minutes I was so exhausted, I fell into bed sans magnets.

Let’s start with the fact that the magnets came in a roll, like a roll of nickels. Of course they were magnetized together, and my fingers just didn’t want to rise to the challenge of prying them apart. And, when I would finally get one pried loose from the roll, it would snap right back. It only took my brain about 20 attempts (may be an exaggeration) to realize that I had to place the newly freed magnet about 5” from the roll to lessen its strong desire to return.

All this, Cagney & Lacy (my Avator) found extremely fascinating. They would creep closer for a better look, only to jump back again when the magnet snapped back to the roll.

Once I got the hang of prying the magnets apart, I started to place them on the tape. This is where actually reading would have come in handy.

I laid out one long strip of tape, and attempted to place the magnets on the tape side by side. But, they kept escaping the tape and snapping together. I finally figured out that if I placed them an inch apart, it curbed their desire for companionship. When I had finally succeeded in getting 5 magnets placed on the tape, I was ready to tape the strip to my back.

I picked up one end of the strip, and snap, snap, snap. The tape folded accordion-style between the roll of magnets. My attempt to straighten the tape back out, was what finally ended today’s experiment. I took hold of each end of the strip and pulled. The magnets flew off the tape, clattering against towel rack, commode and sink. Thank god one didn’t venture near the window.

If the bathroom door had been open, Cagney & Lacy would have bolted through in their mad scramble to escape flying magnets. Instead, they both took to the bathtub, where they found one of the errant magnets had landed. I left them trying to pry it loose from the tub drain, while I recovered with a nap. Their success was no better than mine had been with the roll. The darn thing kept snapping back to the drain. They were still playing with it when I woke.

If nothing else, I have found a great way to keep them entertained.
This is hilarious Thank you I'm sorry but I just had to laugh and I know it wasn't funny to you, but thank you
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This is hilarious Thank you I'm sorry but I just had to laugh and I know it wasn't funny to you, but thank you
Thanks Kitt. It's OK to laugh. I've been laughing at myself. My favorite line from the Calvin and Hobbs comic strip: "If we couldn't laugh at things that don't make sense [substitute ourselves], we couldn't react to a lot of life"
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