[Seagem]

The other day I was telling the doctor treating me for my Peripheral Neuropathy that I was dumping the Lyrica she had prescribed in favor of an all natural approach mostly based on herbs, hence the study on the effects of Capsaicin/Menthol and now the TPR 20 cream...

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...303#post665303

I also told her about the herbal remedy I had found to be very effective in combating the negative effects that PN often has on one's sex life - due to loss of sensitivity preventing an orgasm and/or inability to achieve an erection - so that she could pass on the information on to her patients...

Then, it finally occurred to me that I should share this bit of good news here, as some of the ingredients in the remedy also have positive effects on the neuro-muscular system...

Just curious, before I go further: are any posters/readers interested in this subject?...

[mrsD]

Yes, continue. There is no rule against it either.

We have a men's health forum too you might copy your post to there as well.

Yohimbine ( may raise blood pressures tho)
Horny Goat Weed
arginine (amino acid)

These are the 3 most commonly found in male enhancement products.

[Seagem]

I have often bought products from Iherb that sported glowing recommendations from a large number of users and which did nothing at all for me...

This left me wondering about the quality of these testimonials, that is until I came across this product where the recommendations, if anything, are somewhat understated: here are the ingredients...

- Yohimbe extract (2% total alkaloids)(bark) 450 mg

yohimbine hydrochloride is the standardized form of yohimbine that is available as a prescription medicine in the United States, and has been shown in human studies to be effective in the treatment of male impotence.

- Ashwagandha extract (5:1)(root) 300 mg

This herb is considered an adaptogen that work to normalize physiological function, benefits the neuroendocrine system and helps with sexual vitality. Several firms have taken out patents to treat various ailments, including arthritis...

- Damiana (Turnera diffusa) powder (leaf) 150 mg

This herbal supplement is reputed to help with Fibromyalgia, energy, emphysema, low estrogen, frigidity, hot flashes, impotency, infertility, menopause, Parkinson's disease, PMS, inflammation of prostate, Lou Gehrig's disease, and more dealing with reproductive organs in both males and females. Apparently, it can also be smoked, producing effects similar to those of marijuana, as damianin has certain effects on the central nervous system....

- Eleuthero extract (0.8% eleutherosides)(root) 150 mg

Taken regularly, it enhances immune function, decreases cortisol levels and inflammatory response, and it promotes improved cognitive and physical performance

- Epimedium (Epimedium sagittatum)(Horny Goat Weed) extract (8:1)(aerial) 150 mg

Its active components, Icariin is purported to work by increasing levels of nitric oxide, which relax smooth muscle: its effects are similar to those of sildenafil (Viagra) or vardenafil (Levitra)...

- Muira Puama powder (root) 150 mg

In Brazilian herbal medicine, muira puama still is a highly-regarded sexual stimulant with a reputation as a powerful aphrodisiac. It is used to treat central nervous system disorders and paralysis (Beri-Beri), dyspepsia, menstrual disturbances, chronic rheumatism (applied topically), sexual impotency, and for nerve pain...

- Tribulus extract (40% saponins)(plant) 150 mg

Sex drive booster, it is also used as an aphrodisiac, diuretic and nervine in Indian medicine...

- Ginkgo extract (24% flavone glycosides, 6% terpene lactones)(leaf) 30 mg

Ginkgo extract may have three effects on the human body: improvement in blood flow (including microcirculation in small capillaries) to most tissues and organs; protection against oxidative cell damage from free radicals; and blockage of many of the effects of platelet-activating factor (platelet aggregation, blood clotting)[36] that have been related to the development of a number of cardiovascular, renal, respiratory and central nervous system disorders.

- Bioperine Complex 6 mg

Bioperine is added in the formula to facilitate absorption...

These are just glimpses at the respective properties of the ingredients, which should be researched in more details, including side effects by those interested...

Originally Posted by mrsD

Yes, continue. There is no rule against it either.

We have a men's health forum too you might copy your post to there as well.

Yohimbine ( may raise blood pressures tho)
Horny Goat Weed
arginine (amino acid)

These are the 3 most commonly found in male enhancement products.

[mrsD]

So what is the name of this product, and have you used it yet?

[Seagem]

Originally Posted by mrsD

So what is the name of this product, and have you used it yet?

I thought you'd never ask!

I would not recommend it, had I not used the product for several weeks...

It's called Yohimbe-Plus by Irwin Naturals and is sold at Iherb for $14.46 for 120 soft gels...

http://www.iherb.com/Irwin-Naturals-...Gels/3166?at=0

I take one per day every day for maintenance and 3 on the days I plan to have sex, averaging probably around a dozen soft gels per week, which amounts to about a 10 weeks supply in a single bottle: very cost effective for those on a budget!...

Here are the glowing testimonials and for once, I can really vouch for them...

http://www.iherb.com/Irwin-Naturals-...Gels/3166?at=0

Yes, the Yohimbe is supposed to raise blood pressure, but I monitor mine daily before going to bed and it stays in the 130 over 75 range...

I takes a few days for Yohimbe-Plus to build up in the system but it works great for both sexes, apparently...

[nide44]

Hmmmm !!

I'm skeptical .

Replace the Lyrica with this,
and have positive pain & sx relief results?
Really ?

I doubt it - unless you take a
minimum dose.... like 25mg 2x day.
(Which means you barely needed it, in the first place)


BTW - I don't know what your age is, but after a certain age,
sex is not the most important thing in life.

[mrsD]

Yes, I am getting a little confused too.

The title of this thread is ---Neuropathy affecting your sex life--

And the supplement is targeting erectile dysfunction, but the statement in the first post says, Seagem is refusing Lyrica for this supplement. Lyrica is for pain, and these ingredients may not have much effect on pain transmission at all.

Taking yohimbine daily can raise blood pressure. So that needs to be monitored.

The most common cause of erectile dysfunction is loss of circulation. That is why arginine (the amino acid) works well for this problem men face as they age.
1 gram of arginine daily with its cousin, Citrulline 1 gram can enhance blood flow to the penis and really make a difference.
(this is how Viagra works--Viagra is a PGE1 releasor, which dilates blood vessels).

[nide44]

The pain prevention aspects of Lyrica (and its cousin Neurontin)
is a bit different than just pain medications, per se.
A pain medication, dulls or diminishes pain, even to the point of non-existence, by covering up the pain sensations.
They do not affect, neurologically.
Lyrica relieves pain by relieving neuro symptoms. If the pain is a jabbing symptom, it eliminates the jab, not the pain from the jab.
You don't minimally feel the jab, (but it doesn't bother you anymore) you don't get jabs, in the first place.
There are certain types of PN pain that are not symptomatic and that Lyrica won't affect. That is why a pain killer, is used-in conjunction with the Lyrica (an opiate or synthetic, like Tramadol), a 'cocktail' of meds, as it were. Together they work, usually better than either standing alone, to alleviate both the sx, and the pains.

As far as sex is concerned, if the Lyrica is doing what it is supposed to do, but s/e are evident- a supplement such as MrsD suggests, would be more in order- rather than the discontinuation of an effective med.

[Seagem]

There is really no need to be confused in this case...

I had a phone conversation with my doctor where I told her I was dumping the Lyrica she had prescribed in favor of topical application of pain management cream or patches and the taking of a number of herbal anti-inflammatory products...

Then, in conclusion, I said: "by the way, I came across this nifty Yohimbe-Plus product that has restored sensitivity where it had been lost, as a result of PN - and your patients may benefit by it, if they have similar problems..."

There obviously is no direct connection between Lyrica and Yohimbe-Plus: however, the fact that some of its ingredients show a beneficial effect by 'canceling' the damage caused by PN to the nerves 'driving' the sexual organs, may justify additional studies, as they could potentially help with the restoration of other nervous functions...

Originally Posted by mrsD

Yes, I am getting a little confused too.

The title of this thread is ---Neuropathy affecting your sex life--

And the supplement is targeting erectile dysfunction, but the statement in the first post says, Seagem is refusing Lyrica for this supplement. Lyrica is for pain, and these ingredients may not have much effect on pain transmission at all.

Taking yohimbine daily can raise blood pressure. So that needs to be monitored.

The most common cause of erectile dysfunction is loss of circulation. That is why arginine (the amino acid) works well for this problem men face as they age.
1 gram of arginine daily with its cousin, Citrulline 1 gram can enhance blood flow to the penis and really make a difference.
(this is how Viagra works--Viagra is a PGE1 releasor, which dilates blood vessels).

[dahlek]

Essentially because when one has severe PN they're thinking about ***?
Maybe I AM on the wrong planet? Because PN pain usually puts one out of any sensory 'circles' and thus you don't FEEL!
Am I confusing things here? That first: You have PN PAIN [And not in the Penis?] and Secondly that you are having some difficulty in the latter area?
Do check out this forum on our boards... it's not neuropathically related, but, maybe better related to your problems: http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum114.html

Just click on the 'blue'.... for good stuff there.

I hope you find just what you need, that helps you. Truly, and keep hopeing for whatever? - j