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Default Hi David

I don't know Alka Seltzer, but Mrs. D answered a bit of the question on the "neuropathy & weather" post. She said that your probably better off not taking the 80mg aspirin tablet if you take the Alka Seltzer.

My GI doc told me that people with GI problems like ulcers should avoid aspirin. Also if you have general stomach problems or a propensity towards them, daily aspirin can make things worse.

On it's own 80mg seems like a low dose, and if you have not had any GI problems, than why not? My mum swares by aspirin for everything. She also takes a low dose tablet before bed. She has had her thyroid gland completely removed and had a bit of a cholesterol problem that she diffused with aspirin therapy.
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High David ,

I noticed an increase in bleeding from cuts on 80mg/day. My cardiologist said "Oh yes, an increase in "cut time" occurs. When I was in the hospital they accidently increased my aspirin to 325mg/day and I didn't catch it. After I got out, a minor cut bled like a major injury and I ended up getting "glued" in ER. So I don't think you should overdo the aspiriri.
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Lightbulb yes, JD

that is the anti-platelet action. That is the target for using the aspirin in the
first place to prevent blood clots in the brain or coronary arteries.

Some people normally have LOW platelets, and a test can be run to
identify them. If you are normally low, then aspirin may not be needed at
all. Aspirin + low platelets would give an elongated bleed time as well.
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Default Thank you all.

With aspirin + vitamin E + fish oil I do tend to bleed, but not enough to be a problem except at the dentist. It can make it harder for him to get a clean, dry work field.

I'll continue the daily 80 mg. regimin, and get some Alka Seltzer Gold for daily use. Regular Alka Seltzer works better for me than even Napraxin Sodium for muscle and joint aches and PN pain, so I'll still use it as needed at night.

You can raise your pH with diet: http://www.reynoldsoffice.com/ph.htm.

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Ok, I feel like I am lost in space here. Please explain to me why you are using the Alka-Seltzer in the first place. I want to understand. Mrs. D, are you saying it could help we celiac's with digestion? Sorry if I am in duhs-ville, I am not understanding this.

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Hi--

If you knew you were going to take Alka Seltzer, I'd think there's no need to take your daily mini-dose of aspirin. If you take a lot of Alka Seltzer, I'd suggest taking your daily aspirin at night, then you know if you've had an alka seltzer day already!
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Lightbulb Darlindeb...

It is for burning pain mostly.

I discovered this by accident, several years ago. If you read the two
links from OBT above, I give the history.

I use AlkaSeltzer more in the summer, when I have burning in my feet at
night.

I've been researching it some, and connecting the dots as far as
food allergies go. Environmental allergy doctors use TriSalts to abort
challenges when elimination diets are done. If a positive occurs in the office
or at home, TriSalts are given for accidents/slips.

But I found that AlkaSeltzer really helps with burning in particular.
I just found that pain.org paper...on acid/pain. So I find that also connects...to the burst of bicarb you get with the AlkaSeltzer.
It is not really the aspirin per se, but the rest that seems to provide the relief.
The aspirin works on the pain of course, but is not essential to the burning.

AlkaSeltzer was really really useful when I was using metformin..which causes
a metabolic acidosis in some people. I would stop the diarrhea symptoms in
minutes for me!
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Ok, I feel like I am lost in space here. Please explain to me why you are using the Alka-Seltzer in the first place. I want to understand. Mrs. D, are you saying it could help we celiac's with digestion? Sorry if I am in duhs-ville, I am not understanding this.

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Alka Seltzer is a powerful pain killer. The active pain relieving ingredient is aspirin. Aspirin works similar to and through the same biochemical mechanisms as Ibuprofen (Motrin, Excedrin, or Advil) and Naproxen Sodium (Aleve). With two Alka Seltzer tablets, you get the full adult dose of aspirin, pre-dissolved for very quick absorption, and buffered to reduce stress to the stomach and/or intestine. Two Alka Seltzers works better for me than even Vicodin to reduce or eliminate PN pain, muscle and joint aches, or headaches (rare for me) so that I can fall asleep. Secondly, most of us are too acid for optimal health and nerve function. The buffers in Alka Seltzer help make us very slightly less acid and more basic.

There are several downsides to aspirin and Alka Seltzer. 1) The action of any anti-inflammatory analgesic slows down or stops long term cartilage repair even though it reduces inflammation. You really shouldn’t take these analgesics all day and every day. 2) All of the anti-inflammatory analgesics interfere with platelet action, making wounds bleed a lot and a long time. 3) All drugs are hard on the liver. 4) Aspirin and other anti-inflammatory analgesics can cause serious stomach or intestinal bleeding. According to MrsD (and she is very knowledgeable), Alka Seltzer doesn't stress the stomach or intestine because of the quick absorption and the buffering. 5) The pain relieving action of Alka Seltzer, while powerful, is relatively short lived. It's fine for helping reduce pain and relaxing you so that you can fall asleep, but only lasts a few hours. That's compared to Aleve which lasts 12 hours.

Who isn't lost in space? Anybody who thinks they aren't is delusional, i.e. they're lost in space. Anybody who knows they are lost in space but acts like they're not is faking it. Fakes don't know who they are or what's important in life (integrity), i.e. they're lost in space.

You might feel like you're lost in space, but not quite getting the full context of a discussion you join that's been going on for years is not being lost in space. All it takes is one question and a lucid answer (which I may or may not have provided) to make the context clear.

P.S. I don't think Alka Seltzer will help people with celiac disease. It just wouldn't be as devastating to your poor irritated GI track as other analgesics would. On the other had, it may be something you could safely take for short term pain relief. It would be worth exploring on the celiac board. http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/fo...sprune=-1&f=13
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I wouldn't have a clue if Disprin is the same as Asprin, but in the past a mixture of disolved disprins & sorbelene cream mixed together to a thick paste and applied to when my feet when they were burning did definatly help the burning, it doesn't take it away all together, but i found it helped me.
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Thank you both for your replies. I just keep researching.
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