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Magnate
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--although a lot of doctors are still behind in their continuing medical education on this, impaired glucose tolerance not yet to the point of a diganosis of frank diabetes is becoming more recognized as a generator of neuropathy. (And that 2-hour level does seem high--it's possible to have "normal" fasting glucose levels but an abnormal response to glucose challenge, indicated impaired tolerance.)
I've written about this a number of times in the past, with links to papers one can read and take to the doctors who still seem to believe one has to have diabetes for years before getting neuropathy: http://intl.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/60/1/108 http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/c...TRY=1&SRETRY=0 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=16448668 http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/c...07929/ABSTRACT http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...d_AbstractPlus There are many others--it's sad that so many doctors aren't aware of this. |
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I think starting a good diet is important now.
The one I like to recommend, has validity for controlling blood glucose levels and inflammation.. The Zone. It is easy to follow, and very helpful. In essence, it avoids high glycemic carbs and sugars, moderates saturated fats, encourages essential fats, and balances carbs with protein. http://www.zonediet.com/Default.aspx...ooglePPCsearch Your library may have his books. Controlling inflammation is important for PNers IMO. Inflammation results from insulin spikes that occur during impaired glucose metabolism and from eating sweets. Insulin can be a stimulus to creating inflammatory cytokines which are implicated in nerve pain and damage. This explains further: http://www.womentowomen.com/inflammation/causes.aspx In essence.. eat more omega-3, less omega-6, and remove sweets and high glycemic carbs.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | glenntaj (10-28-2010) |
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Can the non-length variety (sensations all over body) be caused by Glucose Intolerance problems/prediabetic?
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According to my endo ronologist "no"
She said it's only innpeople with very high and uncontrolled diabetes for yeRs! But I don't think thats accurate. Any ways she ran some more blood work and some antibodies so let's see |
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--that's not accurate at all--see my other post (with lots of references) on the possibility of neuropathy from impaired glucose tolerance that is not yet frank diabetes. (You might want to print out, of send the doc links to, a few of those--we do often have to educate the physicians.)
And, while the classic presentation of impaired glucose/diabetic neuropathy is, as Dr. Vinik says, of small-fiber length-dependent disruption, large fibers can be affected also: http://neuromuscular.wustl.edu/nother/diabetes.htm |
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Most doctors are very poor in chemistry. They typically only have basic skills in it.
The chemistry of insulin creates inflammation when insulin levels are high. Dr. Sears explains that, as he is a biochemist. Insulin levels can be very high, and your testing for blood glucose normal or close to normal, and it is the INSULIN creating the problem, NOT the glucose directly. The glucose is acting only as a trigger. Before diabetes occurs, this process is ongoing...it may be a short time frame and then you get failure of insulin secretion from the pancreas, and then you have high sugars. But some people can live at this state of insulin resistance for a long time (genetically predisposed) and while at this level of high insulin which is abnormal, inflammation and damage is occurring to your body..nerves, blood vessels, etc. You should get the books by Dr. Barry Sears and read them. His first is Enter the Zone, and has two chapters on this chemistry. Change your eating habits now, and you may feel much better in the long run. You don't need a doctor to do this or drugs. This diet The Zone is not radical...like Atkins or some others. It is easy to do and gives results. You can use it to lose weight, and/or decrease inflammation.
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Glenna, can Glucose Intolerance cause the non-length variety or is it more common for it to cause the length dependant type? |
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Magnate
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--in fact, glucose dysregulation has been known to produce acute neruopathies, chronic neuropathies, mononeuropathies (the disruption of one nerve, often associated with a compression--the so-called "double-crush hypothesis"), autonomic neuropathies with, and without, sensory or motor symptoms . . .wide swings in blood glucose levels, and/or high insulin levels, are not good for a LOT of body systems
I do recommend that Washington University/Saint Louis Neuromuscular website summary for a look at the diversity of possible conditions: http://neuromuscular.wustl.edu/nother/diabetes.htm |
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I understand that an 8-hour fasting is required for the Glucose Intolerance Test. The laboratory opens at 7AM (most likely I will be attended immediately since I come in very early). I take my Synthroid at 4AM, VitB12 at 5AM and Gabapentin at 6AM. Can I take these medicines prior to the test? My doctor did not give me any instructions neither is returning my call. I am going to take the test by Friday/March 16. Thank you for your reply. |
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You can call the testing center and ask.
I was told that medications are okay to take. But not to brush teeth. You can drink water...and I'd suggest you be very hydrated, so your veins will pop up and be easy to access. If you are dehydrated, the test will be very uncomfortable.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | glenntaj (03-15-2012), Idiopathic PN (03-16-2012) |
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